NOW, When Is Someone Saved?

[sandie]

Originally Posted by Socialite

Sandie, Jeffrey hasn't responded yet, but I will take a stab here.

I don't believe Jeffrey is saying baptism is denied at all, or that someone who believes would not be baptized. In fact, he's saying just the opposite. Baptism was a simultaneous event with publicly professing belief! So when we see "believing and baptized" it's one big, beautiful picture. This is not to say that one does not believe until they are baptized, but rather the association of events is what made the compound phrase one word -- the primary subject must be recognized as "believing," and that is reiterated in the "he that doesn't believe" will be lost.

Who has advocated that people should not repent or be baptized? I believe the context of the one-stepper remarks has been God's work in salvation, and understanding Grace.

Sandie, what does "repentance" mean? What relationship does repentance have with believing? Is repentance a commitment to quit sinning? What is the most broad meaning of repentance? Is sin the focus or is Jesus?

"It all starts and ends with faith." Amen.

Hi Socialite,
I'm not going to hang out in this thread much longer.
I believe as you do and as many do here, that without faith and the grace of God we'd all be lost and headed for a hells grave.
I'm getting a little tired of the questions, if you don't know what repentance is then perhaps you should look it up instead of asking me.
Nothing, I repeat nothing that has been said in this thread or anywhere else I've read on this forum tells me that Acts 2:38 isn't necessary to obey. Nothing.
Either God meant what He said thru Peter or He was just kidding around (I shudder to even make such a statement).
Why that is such a stumbling block to so many I don't really understand, it's there for all to read and accept or reject.
Jesus said the way was narrow and "FEW" would be that find it. Accept God's plan of salvation or reject it, that choice is up to the individual.
No wonder Jesus said unless we believe like a child we would not be a part of His Kingdom.
All this gyration to get around a simple, yet profound truth is truly mind boggling. But, I leave such things to God.
I will continue to express the Gospel to as many as will listen and give them the instructions God has laid out on how to obey this marvelous Good News.
God bless.