Pornography and Disability

[notofworks]

Originally Posted by rgcraig

Wrong.

Talk to someone addicted to porn.

No Renda, it's not at all wrong. Do some research and find out some amazing damaging side effects of this.

And I said, "Often", not always.

[rgcraig]

Originally Posted by scotty

My thought here is , if one is "disabled" in such that they can not have sex then what would be the point of porn in the first place if same said one can not satisfy themselves with it ?

I wondered that, but didn't want to be the single female to ask it.

[Socialite]

Originally Posted by Aquila

Who said anything about being a "porn addict"? lol

I was in the Army and I was a healthy young man for crying out loud. Of course I'd check out the Playmate of the month on occasion. We all did. Sometimes they'd pin her centerfold up in the motor pool. We also trained to brutally kill people if necessary. That doesn't make me a porn addict or a murderer. I'm just a man.

Now, I got married. My wife didn't like the idea of that kind of thing, and we started going to church, so I essentially avoided it as much as possible.

Being married, as with many couples are just married, we were all over each other all the time. Sometimes two or more times a day or night for three or more nights a week. Of course, as anyone who's been married knows, that kind of thing vanishes. lol

MY QUESTION (before you turned to accusations or implications) was what is the biological difference between looking at your wife's beauty or looking at a magazine and experiencing orgasm?

Wow... touchy, touchy! Brave and honest yet so defensive. Sheesh!

You had regular interaction with porn (graphic images) you said. Maybe I jumped the gun, but let's not split hairs over how many times a week equals "addiction." I'll instead retract.

"Healthy young man" is how you describe that? Sounds worldly reasoning to me. I'm not attacking you, because we've all dealt with stuff like this, but your response and explanation of it is baffling. Just a man?

I get your question to Coadie, btw. I wasn't debating any of that.

[notofworks]

Originally Posted by rgcraig

Probably read that here:

http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...porn+addiction

No, I hadn't seen that. It was a study posted at mondaymorninginsight.com

[sandie]

Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind

Paul says we will judge angels in the world to come and also not to take church matters to civil court. How do we judge someone who is physically disabled and unable to engage in physical intimacy? Is pornagraphy acceptable for a physically disabled person? I personally would not condemn such a person.

Psalm 101:3
I will set no wicked thing before mine eyes: I hate the work of them that turn aside; it shall not cleave to me

[Socialite]

Originally Posted by Aquila

What strikes me is that most here are supposed experts on the subject... but aren't even willing to admit their own experience with it.

Careful, if you're honest, you might be called a porn addict when you were no where near the addict level. People can't stand honesty any more. The moral posturing begins to play the "I'm holier than thou." game.

Still touchy, Aquila. Who has called for anyone to admit anything? You admitted first, now you feel vulnerable and you are going off on everyone. Calm down a bit.

What's the "addict" level? One porn movie a day? Twice a day? Every other day?

Who is pulling the self-righteous card? I think you got your feelings hurt.

[Socialite]

Originally Posted by notofworks

Oh, absolutely they are. I've known men who couldn't.....ahem...."perform" without first viewing porn. Sure, there are men who sink back into a world of fantasy, but there are many more who seek to experience their fantasies or at least experience sex and during that sexual encounter, think about their fantasies.

I know wives that want to bring porn into the relationship... a way to rev the engines.

(I think it's a horrible idea, by the way)

[Socialite]

Originally Posted by Aquila

Jesus said,

Matthew 5:28
But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.

Please note: This doesn’t say that if a man admires a woman’s beauty in his thoughts he has committed adultery. It also doesn’t say that if a man thinks about what it would be like to be with a given woman he’s committed adultery. Jesus doesn’t say that if a man has a fantasy about being with a given woman that he’s committed adultery. Nor does Jesus say that if a young adult who is engaged happens to fantasize about being with their wife-to-be that they’ve committed adultery.

Jesus says that if a man looks at a woman with the intent “to lust after her”… he’s committed adultery “in his heart”. I think that the issue is the intent of the heart. If you look upon a woman with a true intent to pursue her with the desire to use her, you’ve already crossed the line in your heart. Now, if you look at a woman and you’re star struck and in love. And you’re talking to her and getting to know her. And she’s in your thoughts. And you’re hoping she could be the one you’ll marry. You’ve not sinned at all.

Didn’t the lovers in the Song of Solomon fantasize about each other? Was it a sin?

Please state your thesis in a single sentence... that it's not sinful to have sexual fantasies about another person who is not your wife?

[notofworks]

Originally Posted by Socialite

Still touchy, Aquila. Who has called for anyone to admit anything? You admitted first, now you feel vulnerable and you are going off on everyone. Calm down a bit.

What's the "addict" level? One porn movie a day? Twice a day? Every other day?

Who is pulling the self-righteous card? I think you got your feelings hurt.

Yeah, and then there's Michael the Arch Angel, or whatever he is, who says that the Apostle Paul said that if a person looks at porn, he can't go to heaven.

[Socialite]

Originally Posted by Aquila

Wasn't my point. But I agree.

I was just miffed for being implicated as a porn addict when I was in the Army and we'd check out the Playmate of the month on occasion. lol

Once a week to "on occasion".. ha.. whatever dude. It was in your past.. didn't think you'd be so touchy about that.