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11-12-2013, 05:52 PM
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Re: The Bible Is Secondary
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Interesting response. 1 John 5:7 made its way into the bible, but was not supposed to be there, right? |
I believe it should be there.
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11-12-2013, 05:55 PM
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Re: The Bible Is Secondary
The early christians had 'the Word of God', what we today call the 'old testament'.
The early christians were not a bunch of biblical illiterates, unlike so many today.
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11-12-2013, 05:57 PM
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Re: The Bible Is Secondary
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Really? So, you believe that God used the RCC to preserve the truth of scripture?
BTW: I believe the Bible reveals God, to those seek to know Him as He really is, "...the letter kills....the Spirit gives life..." The canon has too many human fingerprints to be inerrant. The scriptures without relationship in Spirit with God produces religion. Religion is the source of wars and all kinds of hatred.
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In the past God used a donkey to reprimand a prophet, God used pagan nations to punish Israel, and God used satan to test Job. So yes God can use any one He wants anytime.
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11-12-2013, 06:00 PM
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Re: The Bible Is Secondary
If the Scriptures are not inerrant, then you have nothing to base your faith on except your own personal experiences and opinions.
The canon was not established by the RCC.
Not that the apostles themselves ever thought of their writings as 'the canon of Scripture' anyway...
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11-12-2013, 06:16 PM
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Re: The Bible Is Secondary
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Originally Posted by Esaias
If the Scriptures are not inerrant, then you have nothing to base your faith on except your own personal experiences and opinions.
The canon was not established by the RCC.
Not that the apostles themselves ever thought of their writings as 'the canon of Scripture' anyway...
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Probably need your definition of inerrancy, because the different manuscripts (since we have no original) from which we have our translations have textual variations. E.g, the ending of Mark, woman caught in adultry in John 8, etc.
Now, as far as the whole essence of the new testament scriptures, it remains whole.
So I guess you have to supply your definition of inerrancy.
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11-12-2013, 06:17 PM
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Re: The Bible Is Secondary
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I believe it should be there.
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Have you read up on how it was inserted?
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11-12-2013, 06:36 PM
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Re: The Bible Is Secondary
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Have you read up on how it was inserted?
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We know it was quoted as scripture by Cyprian in 250ad.
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11-12-2013, 08:03 PM
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Re: The Bible Is Secondary
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If the Scriptures are not inerrant, then you have nothing to base your faith on except your own personal experiences and opinions.
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One cannot base one's life on several of the scriptures in the bible. For example are we to love our father and mother or hate our father and mother. Only after changing one of the passages to agree with the other can one arrive at scripture to base one's faith on.
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The canon was not established by the RCC.
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Yes it was. If the roman catholic church didn't finalize the canon, who did?
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Not that the apostles themselves ever thought of their writings as 'the canon of Scripture' anyway...
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True.
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11-12-2013, 08:05 PM
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Re: The Bible Is Secondary
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I believe it should be there.
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Are you saying the earlier manuscripts were not final God-approved without it and God moved on a scribe to add it later?
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11-12-2013, 09:00 PM
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Isaiah 56:4-5
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Are you saying the earlier manuscripts were not final God-approved without it and God moved on a scribe to add it later?
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wasn't it written like in a side margin?
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