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11-08-2013, 07:50 PM
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Re: The Bible Is Secondary
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If there is no standard of truth then how do inow what is true or not? If we all have personal revelations but have not standard of abssolute truth by which to compare them hen in essance we have made our selves God and have decided that we are able to dictate to our sleves what is right and what is wrong. Who are we to discard the Word of God for our own thoughts and feelings? It it iteresting to note that just as in the garden of eden the devil attacked the Word of God and He still does it today.
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The truth is that the "standard of truth", (the Bible) is interpreted differently constantly amongst it's most ardent followers.
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11-08-2013, 07:52 PM
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Re: The Bible Is Secondary
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Is there an absolute standard?
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I think there is an absolute standard and that is the Mind of God which is also completely unfathomable by men.
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11-08-2013, 08:00 PM
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Re: The Bible Is Secondary
1Th 1:5 because our gospel came to you not only in word, but also in power and in the Holy Spirit and with full conviction. You know what kind of men we proved to be among you for your sake.
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- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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11-08-2013, 08:02 PM
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Re: The Bible Is Secondary
Eph 6:17 and take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God,
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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11-08-2013, 08:03 PM
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Re: The Bible Is Secondary
Eph 1:13 In him you also, when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, and believed in him, were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit,
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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11-08-2013, 08:34 PM
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Re: The Bible Is Secondary
Prax, I don't think you are proving anything by quoting scripture....
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11-08-2013, 08:45 PM
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Re: The Bible Is Secondary
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Prax, I don't think you are proving anything by quoting scripture....
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Not to you anyways
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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11-08-2013, 08:54 PM
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Re: The Bible Is Secondary
Psa 138:2 I will worship toward thy holy temple, and praise thy name for thy lovingkindness and for thy truth: for thou hast magnified thy word above all thy name.
His NAME is powerful! His Name brings forgiveness, healings and miracles and yet David says that God "magnified" (exceeded, promoted, bring up, advanced) His WORD above His name.
WHY? As powerful as His name is, we would not even know His name if it wasn't for His WORD and so it is with the Spirit. The Word reveals to us about the Spirit and if there was no Word, then there wouldn't even be a question about Word vs. Spirit.
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11-09-2013, 07:08 AM
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Re: The Bible Is Secondary
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I wouldnt be in favor of adding them i believe that if God had wanted them in the Bible He would have not have allowed them to be lost.
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Really? So, you believe that God used the RCC to preserve the truth of scripture?
BTW: I believe the Bible reveals God, to those seek to know Him as He really is, "...the letter kills....the Spirit gives life..." The canon has too many human fingerprints to be inerrant. The scriptures without relationship in Spirit with God produces religion. Religion is the source of wars and all kinds of hatred.
Last edited by crakjak; 11-09-2013 at 07:10 AM.
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11-12-2013, 11:55 AM
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Re: The Bible Is Secondary
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I wouldnt be in favor of adding them i believe that if God had wanted them in the Bible He would have not have allowed them to be lost.
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Interesting response. 1 John 5:7 made its way into the bible, but was not supposed to be there, right?
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