Come Out Of Her My People

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by shag

Doesn't settle squat. U fellas have both hit your head. NT scripture reads that we, the church, are the Gods house, temple, and tabernacle, and Stephen was the first martyr in part trying to get that across. But I guess if Im in a deer stand and God meets me there, then my deer stand is Gods house. Or ill take my Gods House woth me to duck hint out of, cause I have a prayer meeting in a portable hunting blind. Or my buddy that God met while driving home in his old 77 Chevy pickup and got filled with the Holyghost, can put a big window sticker on his old Chevy that reads: God's house or Gods Tabernacle. EB, how about you tell your older saint that if she prays in the bathroom while fixing her hair to go to "Gods house", that if God was speaking to her, then she needs to start calling her bathroom Gods House or Gods Tabernacle cause he meets her there. How about I'm riding home everyday on a motorcycle, and Im talking to God and He's talking to me, he meets me there on that motorcycle in the way home from work everyday, now I'm going to ride the Gods House home, why not if that's where I meet him daily?

U fellas can keep calling a man made bldg, the church or Gods tabernacle all day long, U can call a cow a goat till hell freezes over, but that doesn't make it true. How about you just let scripture be true, instead of traditional nonsense, and stick with what Peter and Paul says was THE (not one of the) house of God?

Tell u what, IMO, when if Paul and Peter were here, and some little ol lady was all the time calling a bldg, whether a bathroom or a cathedral, Gods House(standing on Holy Ground mindset) I think in love he'd realign her understanding "when I said you ought to behave in the house of God, which is THE CHURCH, I wasn't talking about no bldg, cause the bldg is not the church". And the OT temple is not a type and shadow of some man made cathedral, but rather a type and shadow of a bldg not made with hands, so please don't confuse things and call it or try to make it something it's not.


I've been too busy to reply to your posts cause of men's conference, doesn't mean you boys are right, but hey just keep hi fiving eachother and trying to convince yourselves you are. Keep "shaking your fist"(right prax?) saying see there, if God meets you there, then call that bldg (or motorcycle or car or bathroom) Gods House by golly!

Shag lay off the Red Bull.

Prax, Shag is just jealous.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by n david

This thread is amazing.......ly absurd. Sorry if that offends you.

It started with the claim that the RCC invented church buildings, tithes, clergy and other things which were then labeled sinful because of the RCC connection...

and now it's just a regular Barnum and Bailey 3-ring circus by spending several pages debating whether or not we should call a building the house of God. Six pages thus far on what to call a building.

SMH

BUMP

[Evang.Benincasa]

Little old sister, having her preacher sit her down in the office and correct her on what she calls a building.

Preacher: Sister, I would like to talk to you about what you have been calling the building.

Sister: Yes brother?

Preacher: I have decided that you are no longer going to call the building the house of God.

Sister: Yes brother?

Preacher: How do you feel about that?


Sister: Has Shag been drinking mass quantities of Red Bull again?


Preacher: Yes sister.

[shag]

Ill try to cut back

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by shag

Ill try to cut back

[Praxeas]

Where is Essias to tell us about calling bible things by bible names..what did the bible call "Men's Conferences" anyways?

[Jermyn Davidson]

This is kind of along the subject of this thread.

When I lived in NC, there was a time where I felt led by the Holy Spirit to lay hands on the pews of my church-- the back left side of the church I attended because I sensed a heaviness in our gatherings, a heaviness that was affecting our services and (at least to my 21 year old mind) the delivery of the sermons.

I prayed for God's Presence to saturate "this house" again and to move on the people sitting in this area of the church.

The next service went awesome-- praises and worship to God flowed freely, the preacher delivered the Word of God without stumbling, people who had grown stoic and usually sat in that area of the church were participating in the services again.

I had a point in typing all this, but now I don't remember why.

Has anyone else ever had an experience like this before-- where they felt led by God to pray for specifically for God's Presence to saturate a building, or even a certain part of the building where you knew there would people who would need to be touched by the Lord?

[Amanah]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

This is kind of along the subject of this thread.

When I lived in NC, there was a time where I felt led by the Holy Spirit to lay hands on the pews of my church-- the back left side of the church I attended because I sensed a heaviness in our gatherings, a heaviness that was affecting our services and (at least to my 21 year old mind) the delivery of the sermons.

I prayed for God's Presence to saturate "this house" again and to move on the people sitting in this area of the church.

The next service went awesome-- praises and worship to God flowed freely, the preacher delivered the Word of God without stumbling, people who had grown stoic and usually sat in that area of the church were participating in the services again.

I had a point in typing all this, but now I don't remember why.

Has anyone else ever had an experience like this before-- where they felt led by God to pray for specifically for God's Presence to saturate a building, or even a certain part of the building where you knew there would people who would need to be touched by the Lord?

There was a time, many years ago, when I would go to the church, early in the morning and pray and anoint the pews almost daily. there were about 20 who came every morning for early morning prayer, and more who came for preservice pray. Many times all night the in sanctuary with prayers and fastings.

Our worship services were intense, as we were taught that God inhabits the praise of His people, and we would sing:
"lift up your hand and shout for joy, clap you hands make a joyful noise, this is the way that we fight, praise him for the victory"

Many services the presence of God was so thick in the sanctuary that the Holy Ghost would just fall in the house, and people would begin to speak in tongues, people would receive the HG effortlessly.

My Sister and I were talking about this recently and she says she could see a hazy cloud in the sanctuary for some of our services

[renee819]

n. David wrote,

This thread is amazing.......ly absurd. Sorry if that offends you.

It started with the claim that the RCC invented church buildings, tithes, clergy and other things which were then labeled sinful because of the RCC connection...

and now it's just a regular Barnum and Bailey 3-ring circus by spending several pages debating whether or not we should call a building the house of God. Six pages thus far on what to call a building

David, don't you think that you are stretching the truth, some. A whole lot!

David wrote,

It started with the claim that the RCC invented church buildings, tithes, clergy and other things which were then labeled sinful because of the RCC connection

.

What I actually said,

Come Out Of Her My People

Let's face it. We are ruled in the churches by Pagan Christianity.
It was the Catholic Church that brought in the Trinity baptism.
The hierarchy of Clergy and Laity.
The paying of tithes.
Church buildings
And many other things

.

I never, in any of my Posts wrote, that the Catholic Church invented any of these things. I also wrote that the RCC COMBINED Christianity with Paganism and the Old Testament.

Meaning they took bits of the OT Law, (Priesthood----Temples---Tithes) and combined with the Pagan notion of three gods, (Trinity---later the Holidays)) And for Political reasons combined it with Christianity. Trying to combine all Religions into one. And they AUTHORIZED, made it official, that anyone that did not do as they had set it up, would be persecuted.

For the record---The Catholic Church, DID NOT INVENT ANYTHING. Except to try to force all Religions into ONE. Just as she is trying to do today, along with the United Religions Org and a host of other Organizations. And they will get the job done.

I did not put this article on here to cause confusion, or controversy, although I also knew that it probably would-----because---people are too comfortable in what they have been taught, therefore resisting any facts, that they could easily check out. Too comfortable to check, to study, and see if what I'm writing is true. Too afraid, even to calmly discuss what I have written. They would rather throw dirt, mockery and ridicule, than to get out of their comfort zone and do some study.

I am old enough to see that the church, that in the past that was bound with man-made laws, now is switching to become more like the other churches, more like the world, and is slowly dying.
Both are wrong doctrines, however, those that were willing to forsake the lifestyles of those around them, loved Jesus enough to be “different” if it was required, and so God continued to bless.

Just as God does not care what you wear, (except all thru the Bible, we are taught to be modest. And if you are modest in heart, you will dress modest,) It is the same with buildings. God does not care what building you meet in. He does not live in buildings. Because we are the church, it is not church, until the people of God get there.

But it is not my intention on this Post to discuss buildings, tithes, Trinity, but to discuss, How that people can come out of the lackadaisical mindset, that is causing them to drift towards the falls. And to do that we have to WAKE-UP, and realize, the Leaders are not always right, therefore we have to do some study on our own and know that we know, what God's Word says.

Those that will not WAKE-UP and see the Paganism in their lives, will go one or two ways. They will gradually drift until they will accept the ONE WORLD RELIGION, which I believe is the STRONG DELUSION of these last days.
Or they will stand firm in their churches, until their churches are taken away from them.

God says, COME OUT OF HER MY PEOPLE. And to do that, most do not know, that, that is a completely different mindset. And takes a dedication that is just about as different as the Old Covenant was from the New Covenant.

And in this day, the Denominations are about as bound by Traditions, conventional thinking, as it was in Paul's day, when he chastised the Early Church, for trying to hold on to their traditions.

Galatians 3:1 O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that ye should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth, crucified among you?
:2 This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?
:3 Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh?

What is of the flesh? I believe that each individual has to find that out for themselves as they STUDY and OBEY, the Word of God, with dedication to God.

Since I don't have all of the answers, it could even be, that if a person could find even a half decent church, that they would be instructed as Jesus instructed the Jews. “Do as they say, but not as to their works.” And of course this was temporary, because Jesus had to confirm the Law, until it was finished.

[Pliny]

Originally Posted by renee819

I never, in any of my Posts wrote, that the Catholic Church invented any of these things. I also wrote that the RCC COMBINED Christianity with Paganism and the Old Testament.

Meaning they took bits of the OT Law, (Priesthood----Temples---Tithes) and combined with the Pagan notion of three gods, (Trinity---later the Holidays)) And for Political reasons combined it with Christianity. Trying to combine all Religions into one. And they AUTHORIZED, made it official, that anyone that did not do as they had set it up, would be persecuted.

So Christianity has nothing to do with the Old Testament?
Really?
You do know the Old Testament s a reference to the Old Covenant called by Judaism as Torah? Right?
You do know that GOD said He would write the "Torah" upon the Christian heart right?
Well apparently not; hence, the delusion...

Still waiting for you to demonstrate YOUR assertions!


I did not put this article on here to cause confusion, or controversy, although I also knew that it probably would-----because---people are too comfortable in what they have been taught, therefore resisting any facts, that they could easily check out. Too comfortable to check, to study, and see if what I'm writing is true. Too afraid, even to calmly discuss what I have written. They would rather throw dirt, mockery and ridicule, than to get out of their comfort zone and do some study.

Pretty judgmental here don't you think! Just because people don't see the world you do it is because THEY are comfortable and certainly not because you could possibly be wrong... Speaking of "FACTS" what "FACTS" have you presented... NONE! What to afraid to put your "FACTS" out there?

BTW do you believe Peter was the first Pope?
If not when do YOU think the RCC began?
What FACTS do you have to support your thesis?


I am old enough to see that the church, that in the past that was bound with man-made laws, now is switching to become more like the other churches, more like the world, and is slowly dying.
Both are wrong doctrines, however, those that were willing to forsake the lifestyles of those around them, loved Jesus enough to be “different” if it was required, and so God continued to bless.

Some perhaps not all. I know of churches being planted that stand for truth so your hyperbole is nothing but that - hyperbole.

Just as God does not care what you wear, (except all thru the Bible, we are taught to be modest. And if you are modest in heart, you will dress modest,) It is the same with buildings. God does not care what building you meet in. He does not live in buildings. Because we are the church, it is not church, until the people of God get there.

Please demonstrate where ANYONE denied that humanity is the temple of the Holy Ghost...
Facts truly are pesky things...


But it is not my intention on this Post to discuss buildings, tithes, Trinity, but to discuss, How that people can come out of the lackadaisical mindset, that is causing them to drift towards the falls. And to do that we have to WAKE-UP, and realize, the Leaders are not always right, therefore we have to do some study on our own and know that we know, what God's Word says.

Hmmm... perhaps that is the problem. Bypassing what the Bible says:
Eph 4:11 And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;
Eph 4:12 For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:

The same disease Miriam had...
Num 12:1 And Miriam and Aaron spake against Moses because of the Ethiopian woman whom he had married: for he had married an Ethiopian woman.
Num 12:2 And they said, Hath the LORD indeed spoken only by Moses? hath he not spoken also by us? And the LORD heard it.
The same rebellious spirit that says we don't need leadership. We don't need to submit to any man because we can do our own study; thereby, denying the Bible.



Those that will not WAKE-UP and see the Paganism in their lives, will go one or two ways. They will gradually drift until they will accept the ONE WORLD RELIGION, which I believe is the STRONG DELUSION of these last days.
Or they will stand firm in their churches, until their churches are taken away from them.

God says, COME OUT OF HER MY PEOPLE. And to do that, most do not know, that, that is a completely different mindset. And takes a dedication that is just about as different as the Old Covenant was from the New Covenant.

Another wild eyed accusation...
You really have no idea what you are talking about do you?
You think that because I go to a church building that I am somehow under a strong delusion?
Give me a break!
Apparently you have no idea where church buildings originated. They originated in the SYNAGOGUE! Read the Bible and where do you find the Apostles? In the Synagogues!
Where do you find Jesus - in the SYNAGOGUE!
How did/do Jews maintain their unique identity as Jews?
They go to SYNAGOGUE!

I will not even get into how the LAW (you know the OT is to be written in the Christian heart).


And in this day, the Denominations are about as bound by Traditions, conventional thinking, as it was in Paul's day, when he chastised the Early Church, for trying to hold on to their traditions.



What is of the flesh? I believe that each individual has to find that out for themselves as they STUDY and OBEY, the Word of God, with dedication to God.

Since I don't have all of the answers, it could even be, that if a person could find even a half decent church, that they would be instructed as Jesus instructed the Jews. “Do as they say, but not as to their works.” And of course this was temporary, because Jesus had to confirm the Law, until it was finished.

Please demonstrate where the Law is "finished"...