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Old 11-13-2008, 04:13 PM
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Re: Is Allah God?....Dragons?

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How do we know this?

When I asked Muslims in Afghanistan about this, I could not get a straight answer, although, I think there were communication issues involved and not deception.
TBN in arabic uses the word "allah"
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Old 11-13-2008, 04:17 PM
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Arab Christians today, having no other word for 'God' than Allah,[6] use terms such as Allāh al-Āb (الله الآب) "God the Father".
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However, islam is still a false religion, honoring a false god, that will lead them to real destruction.
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Old 11-13-2008, 07:11 PM
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So what is the correct interpretation or the intended meaning of the word dragon in the bible? Are you saying that modern day demon possession is different from the 1600's or even NT times?
I don't know what the authors meant when they referred to a dragon in their writings which became our Scriptures. In the 1600's when the KJV was being developed, the thinking of the time showed up in the way they interpreted the Greek and Hebrew words into English. If, at that time, they believed in the fire-belching reptiles as dragons, that was the word they used. I think someone else has addressed terms like behomoth and dragon.

As far as demon possession, the word used in the New Testament is daimonizomai which means to be influenced by, vexed by, controlled by a demon (evil spirit). There was a lot of superstition back then about demons/devils coming in when a person yawned or sneezed and gaining possession of him. Have you ever heard someone say, "I wonder what possessed me to do that?" The idea was that an evil spirit or demon or devil could easily access folks and "possess" them. Some of us have even built up a whole teaching on demon depression, obsession, possession and other rhyming words to trace the progression of demonic influence and temptation on through complete "possession." In my opinion, a better translation would have been "demonized" and it could represent a larger scale of demonic activity on a person. If we are children of God, bought by the blood of Jesus, we are His possession and cannot be demon "possessed" but, we can be demonized (influenced by, tempted by, even at times controlled by) demons.
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Old 11-14-2008, 11:37 AM
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Thanks for the information man!

However, islam is still a false religion, honoring a false god, that will lead them to real destruction.
They have a misconception of God, like the Jews.
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They have a misconception of God, like the Jews.
The Jews have a misconception of God?
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The Jews have a misconception of God?
Sure... they believe in "one" but they rejected Him when He came....
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Sure... they believe in "one" but they rejected Him when He came....
Not all did...Actually, if you can do math at all and read your book of Acts, *most* accepted Him as the Messiah.
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Not all did...Actually, if you can do math at all and read your book of Acts, *most* accepted Him as the Messiah.
No. Most at Pentecost... not most in Israel!!!
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No. Most at Pentecost... not most in Israel!!!
How many Jews do you think were in Israel at that time?

3000 on the day of Pentecost, and then 5000 in Acts chapter 4. And at the end of Acts 2, it says that the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved. Those were *all* Jews. Until Acts chapter 10, the Gentiles were not included in those numbers at all.

The population of Jerusalem was around 60,000 before the 70 AD destruction of the city. (30,000 according to another source, with the population swelling to around 80,000 or more during festivals....that source seems a bit flaky though).
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