Lou Engle and TheCall 2010

[soldoutochrist]

Originally Posted by Orthodoxy

After reading this short AFF thread, and this one too…. I have some questions.

Has anybody been to any recent TheCall rallies? I know there was one in Houston in January, and there is one coming up in Sacramento. I also know that there is a 40-day Daniel Fast happening right now for students on college campuses all over the nation (March 1 thru April 9).

I'm curious about what takes place at the conferences, and also about the theology behind Lou Engle, TheCall, the International House of Prayer (IHOP), etc. Although I was raised Oneness Pentecostal (UPC), I have very little knowledge of or experience with charismatic or "Third Wave" Pentecostalism.

Some people connect IHOP with the Latter Rain movement of the '50s, but IHOP has officially denied any previous ties with the LRM. Some of the IHOP doctrines I'm curious about are: (1) the manifest sons of God theology, (2) Joel's army, (3) the Tabernacle of David, etc. See this link.

Please enlighten me! I want to know more!

http://www.thecall.com/
http://www.ihop.org/
http://www.facebook.com/thecall?ref=mf#!/thecall?v=wall

If you were raised UPC, you may be put off by IHOP's worship style. They do believe in the 'Bridal Paradigm,' (http://www.erhop.org/index.php?optio...=20&Itemid=109) so in the prayer room, the songs are a lot more intimate than those you'd find in a traditional UPC church. However, Lou Engle is a man of prayer and there are many anointed worship leaders that come out of that ministry. If I were anywhere near 'The Call,' I'd definitely be interested in attending.

If you want to find out more about IHOP, just tune in here:
http://www.ihop.org/Publisher/Articl...?ID=1000058181

It's a 24/7 live stream from the Prayer Room. Pretty neat.

[Sherri]

I have been to the Call 2007 in Nasvhille. It was amazing! It must have been 95 degrees, and there were thousands of young people there, dancing before the Lord, worshipping for hours on end - and all this after an extended fast. There was a lot of public repentance by leaders - for abortion, racial issues, etc. Lou Engle was in charge of it, but through the hours, it was led by many other people.

The worship was incredible - I think it was Kim Walker. Their worship is intensely passionate and personal. I have a lot of respect for Lou Engle and what he is doing in our country. As far as theology - I'm not sure what all he believes, but there was nothing propigated at the Call that would have been controversial. Just powerful praise & worship and prayer all day long.

[Orthodoxy]

Originally Posted by Sherri

I have been to the Call 2007 in Nasvhille. It was amazing! It must have been 95 degrees, and there were thousands of young people there, dancing before the Lord, worshipping for hours on end - and all this after an extended fast. There was a lot of public repentance by leaders - for abortion, racial issues, etc. Lou Engle was in charge of it, but through the hours, it was led by many other people.

The worship was incredible - I think it was Kim Walker. Their worship is intensely passionate and personal. I have a lot of respect for Lou Engle and what he is doing in our country. As far as theology - I'm not sure what all he believes, but there was nothing propigated at the Call that would have been controversial. Just powerful praise & worship and prayer all day long.

I would like to go to one of TheCall rallies out of curiosity.

BTW, this morning my family and I worshipped at James River Assembly (AOG) in Ozark, Missouri. It was the first time I had ever attended a charismatic service. We've been out of town (in Missouri) all week, and wanted to go to church somewhere. The worship service was quite different from what I'm used to, because they had strobe lights and impressive multimedia effects the whole service (although IBC Music Fest [UPC] in Indianapolis is not too different ) . The church was huge with youth and children's centers, a Starbucks, a large bookstore, an auditorium seating about 5,000 people. And because of multiple services and campuses, they said they are expecting attendance of 15,000 on Easter Sunday. Quite an experience. Not quite sure the megachurch model is for me, though. LOL

http://jamesriver.org/

But anyway, back to the thread topic.... What exactly is the "Kingdom Now" philosophy?

[tv1a]

My kids were at a Call Rally@ Washington DC. For 12 hours they were @ the Washington Mall with thousands of other kids in intercessory prayer for this nation. I don't know if he has the same setup from town to town, but I highly reccommend you check it out. That weekend changed my children's life.

Originally Posted by Orthodoxy

After reading this short AFF thread, and this one too…. I have some questions.

Has anybody been to any recent TheCall rallies? I know there was one in Houston in January, and there is one coming up in Sacramento. I also know that there is a 40-day Daniel Fast happening right now for students on college campuses all over the nation (March 1 thru April 9).

I'm curious about what takes place at the conferences, and also about the theology behind Lou Engle, TheCall, the International House of Prayer (IHOP), etc. Although I was raised Oneness Pentecostal (UPC), I have very little knowledge of or experience with charismatic or "Third Wave" Pentecostalism.

Some people connect IHOP with the Latter Rain movement of the '50s, but IHOP has officially denied any previous ties with the LRM. Some of the IHOP doctrines I'm curious about are: (1) the manifest sons of God theology, (2) Joel's army, (3) the Tabernacle of David, etc. See this link.

Please enlighten me! I want to know more!

http://www.thecall.com/
http://www.ihop.org/
http://www.facebook.com/thecall?ref=mf#!/thecall?v=wall

[Sherri]

Sorry I was wrong about the worship leader. It was Misty Edwards. I get those two mixed up - I love them both.

[Michael The Disciple]

I am watching IHOP tonight. One of their leaders Wes Hall I believe is his name said without water baptism you are not born again. Good to see them come into this truth.

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by Orthodoxy

After reading this short AFF thread, and this one too…. I have some questions.

Has anybody been to any recent TheCall rallies? I know there was one in Houston in January, and there is one coming up in Sacramento. I also know that there is a 40-day Daniel Fast happening right now for students on college campuses all over the nation (March 1 thru April 9).

I'm curious about what takes place at the conferences, and also about the theology behind Lou Engle, TheCall, the International House of Prayer (IHOP), etc. Although I was raised Oneness Pentecostal (UPC), I have very little knowledge of or experience with charismatic or "Third Wave" Pentecostalism.

Some people connect IHOP with the Latter Rain movement of the '50s, but IHOP has officially denied any previous ties with the LRM. Some of the IHOP doctrines I'm curious about are: (1) the manifest sons of God theology, (2) Joel's army, (3) the Tabernacle of David, etc. See this link.

Please enlighten me! I want to know more!

http://www.thecall.com/
http://www.ihop.org/
http://www.facebook.com/thecall?ref=mf#!/thecall?v=wall

For a good backgrounder read the sections titled "We Deny" under each of the headings. In just about each case the "Kansas City Prophets" group, of which Lou Engle was a key player, at least appeared to stray in the areas that they have now set up boundaries around.

As far as the "Latter Rain" involvement, Lou Engle worked very closely with Paul Cain who was a part of William Branham's Voice of Healing org. Cain admitted to "weaknesses" in the areas of homosexuality and alcoholism and stepped down for a time a few years back before being "restored."

The core Kansas City group doesn't appear to accept that Cain has been completely restored.

They appear to be a fervent group which learns and grows. I don't think you could ask much more from folks.

[Orthodoxy]

Originally Posted by pelathais

They appear to be a fervent group which learns and grows. I don't think you could ask much more from folks.

Yeah, so far I've been really impressed by their zeal for the Lord. Check out this creative video they made about the Wilderness Outcry: http://www.wildernessoutcry.com/

[tv1a]

Misty Edwards is awesome. We play her stuff all the time at my house.

Originally Posted by Sherri

Sorry I was wrong about the worship leader. It was Misty Edwards. I get those two mixed up - I love them both.

[Orthodoxy]

Originally Posted by tv1a

Misty Edwards is awesome. We play her stuff all the time at my house.

I just bought two of Misty's newest albums a couple weeks ago (Fling Wide and Point of Life). I had never heard her before.

My favorite song on Fling Wide is "Soul Cry," but all of the songs are pretty awesome.