Re: Stuff Apostolics Like: Holy Magic Hair (sort o
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Originally Posted by Sam
I wouldn't have a problem making the sign of the cross. When I do it I go from right to left like the Orthodox instead of left to right like the Romans and I add "In Jesus' Name"
My husband was teaching my 3 year old son to say grace. He always says the same thing followed by the sign of the cross, and he was showing our son how to do the cross. I threw in a "In Jesus Name", and my husband asked me if it bothered me that he was teaching Kristian how to do that. I told him as long as he wasn't praying to Mary or burying amulets in the backyard then I'll compromise!
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Re: Stuff Apostolics Like: Holy Magic Hair (sort o
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Originally Posted by Jeffrey
1. Your using her cross to pray prayers - good with that. But must they all be Catholic confessions?
2. And what "feels okay" about praying a Hail Mary?
3. How about a Hare Krishna? How about pray to Buddha next?
1. The Paternoster is scriptural per Matthew 6:9-13 and Luke 11:2-4 and is not just Roman Catholic. Jesus gave us those models as index prayers but to use them word for word is, in my opinion, OK also. The Apostles' Creed is Christianity 101 and fulfills Romans 10:9-13. The Glory Be may not be found in Scripture but I do not believe it is unscriptural.
2. The use of the Hail Mary may elicit differences of opinion among Christians. Some believe that the Church is made up of the Church Triumphant (those in Heaven) plus the Church Militant (those still on earth) and asking someone in the Church Triumphant to pray for you is not really different than asking for someone in the Church Militant to pray for you. Actually, much of the wording in the Hail Mary comes from Luke 1:28, Luke 1:42-43, and Luke 1:48.
3. I don't know anything about Hare Krishna prayers and since Gautama Buddha died 4 to 6 hundred years BC and was just a man, I would not pray to him.
Re: Stuff Apostolics Like: Holy Magic Hair (sort o
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Originally Posted by Sam
1. The Paternoster is scriptural per Matthew 6:9-13 and Luke 11:2-4 and is not just Roman Catholic. Jesus gave us those models as index prayers but to use them word for word is, in my opinion, OK also. The Apostles' Creed is Christianity 101 and fulfills Romans 10:9-13. The Glory Be may not be found in Scripture but I do not believe it is unscriptural.
2. The use of the Hail Mary may elicit differences of opinion among Christians. Some believe that the Church is made up of the Church Triumphant (those in Heaven) plus the Church Militant (those still on earth) and asking someone in the Church Triumphant to pray for you is not really different than asking for someone in the Church Militant to pray for you. Actually, much of the wording in the Hail Mary comes from Luke 1:28, Luke 1:42-43, and Luke 1:48.
3. I don't know anything about Hare Krishna prayers and since Gautama Buddha died 4 to 6 hundred years BC and was just a man, I would not pray to him.
By the way, I did not pray the Hail Mary.
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I did not pray any "Hail Mary" but if she had wanted to continue, I could have done it and felt OK with it.
Is Mary divine, Sam?
I get the Lord's Prayer (as us non-Latin, heathen Protestant's refer to it)... Apostle's Creed? If it whets your whistle. I'm not much into praying to creeds myself. There is beautiful language in this particular creed, so go for it. But this prayer, is asking a dead saint to intercede on our behalf?? And it implies her Divinity?
Hail Mary, full of grace.
Our Lord is with thee.
Blessed art thou among women,
and blessed is the fruit of thy womb,
Jesus.
Holy Mary, Mother of God,
pray for us sinners,
now and at the hour of our death.
Amen.
Re: Stuff Apostolics Like: Holy Magic Hair (sort o
BTW I think this also reads into some of our alter call antics. I've seen people try to urge the Holy Ghost out of a persons mouth by rubbing their backs, going up and down the persons neck (the throat part), going "hallalujah, hallalalalalalalalalalalala that's it, just let it out, lalalalalala, say it!",rocking them back and forth and other stuff. When someone does speak in tongues or we think they do, these people believe it was due to their "technique" and they repeat it because if it works once it will work again in their minds
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