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Old 01-19-2011, 04:06 PM
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Re: False Doctrine Part 1 - How To Stop Sinning

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Yeah, that one sort of surprised me coming from him.

But it's the bare bones behind-the-scenes theology. That's it right there.

Works theology at its finest.

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Be your own Savior.

Does he not realize the reason we needed a Savior King?
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Yeah, that one sort of surprised me coming from him.

But it's the bare bones behind-the-scenes theology. That's it right there.

Works theology as its finest.
Flat out Pelagianism ...
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I'm struck DUMB.

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Why be born again, Marty???? ... that which is dead is dead ...
Why would we need to be quickened to Life ... ??? Just to go to heaven?
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Repent. Tell Jesus you are sorry. That’s your job.
Get Baptized in Jesus Name. That’s the Preacher’s job.
Receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. That’s God’s job to give it to you. (You will speak in tongues when you receive it.)
Glad God can make a cameo appearance in yours and the preacher's star roles.

Salvation STARRING ME.
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Re: False Doctrine Part 1 - How To Stop Sinning

I must confess: I'm flabbergasted.

I also have to wonder if the agenda behind this (if there is one) is requiring people to "clean up" before they are baptized. That's an old doctrinal preference, especially among uber-UCs.

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Don't I need the Holy Ghost to stop sinning? NO!
His NT examples were statements written to churches where presumably believers were already Spirit-filled. (And he's telling Spirit-filled believers to "flee fornication", "lay aside every weight, and the sin", "awake to righteousness", etc.)

Citing OT examples of righteousness--there were far more who failed at righteousness than succeeded, especially perfectly.

I do agree that it is POSSIBLE for a person to walk in [outward] righteousness without the help of God. However, it is IMPOSSIBLE for them to walk in perfect [inward] righteousness without being filled with the Spirit. Without God IN us, our hearts remain guilty as ever. Impossibly wretched, wicked and debauched. Horribly and utterly corrupt. Only God can transform the heart of a man, and that is required for actual righteousness.

This is a line of thought produced by dependence on appearances rather than reality. If someone appears to have stopped sinning, and they appear to be modest and holy, then we can assume their hearts are also righteous and they are sin-free. Nope. Sorry. We actually NEED God to finish the work. You can stop participating in outward sins, but your heart will remain black as coal until He has washed and filled it.
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Re: False Doctrine Part 1 - How To Stop Sinning

Just wondering, when you sin, is it really you that's sinning, or is it the sin that lives inside you?
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