For what it's worth, I don't try
to "answer" anymore, but "respond."
It's kind of a work in progress, so
pardon me there.
But really, because some disturbed
woman misinterpreted Scripture and
killed her children, this means that there
is no age of accountability, as a concept?
And I'm not making sense? K.
Whether she misinterpreted scripture is irrelevant. I'm am merely giving mu opinion that nobody should believe it, because of the obvious conclusions it leads to. Refute my logic. Please.
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Whether she misinterpreted scripture is irrelevant. I'm am merely giving mu opinion that nobody should believe it, because of the obvious conclusions it leads to. Refute my logic. Please.
Well, I'd have to get back to you there--I guess "age of accountability" is like "trinity" or something, a concept not specifically mentioned in Scripture...but my knee-jerk answer is that the one shouldn't lead to the other, with a more balanced view of Scripture? Imo, this is what comes from a death-centric view of God; Original Sin; God is out to get you
type thinking.
Well, I'd have to get back to you there--I guess "age of accountability" is like "trinity" or something, a concept not specifically mentioned in Scripture...but my knee-jerk answer is that the one shouldn't lead to the other, with a more balanced view of Scripture? Imo, this is what comes from a death-centric view of God; Original Sin; God is out to get you
type thinking.
What do you believe happens to the souls (or spirits, if you prefer) of babies that die?
Edit: I mean physical death. The kind that you say God doesn't even recognize.
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What do you believe happens to the souls (or spirits, if you prefer) of babies that die?
Edit: I mean physical death. The kind that you say God doesn't even recognize.
I would relate them to "the sea," or "waters" in
Scripture, and, noting that we only see dimly here,
say that they remain just potential. And I don't mean
that God "doesn't recognize" physical death so much as
that it just has a completely different meaning to Him,
is not important, like spiritual death is.
I say this because even angels can apparently
incarnate at will--I guess even fallen ones.
Christ's example, also, went to some lengths
to illuminate that our human def of physical death
is pretty naive. I'm even suspicious of "...just as it
is given for a man to die once."
The only age of accountability I can find is in the OT. 20 years old testified in many scriptures.
Ya, that one strikes me as temporal accountability; surely there is a spiritual counterpart, tho.
How accountable is, say, a baby boomer,
spoiled from birth? Not all, of course, but
the majority, "the sea." For the record, I am
at the tail end of BB's, my parents at the front;
and they are good hearted people, but there are
conversations that we just can't have--it's like
talking to a little kid. Surely for me, too, with
someone else.
I would relate them to "the sea," or "waters" in
Scripture, and, noting that we only see dimly here,
say that they remain just potential. And I don't mean
that God "doesn't recognize" physical death so much as
that it just has a completely different meaning to Him,
is not important, like spiritual death is.
I say this because even angels can apparently
incarnate at will--I guess even fallen ones.
Christ's example, also, went to some lengths
to illuminate that our human def of physical death
is pretty naive. I'm even suspicious of "...just as it
is given for a man to die once."
"And after that, the judgement." So there is (according to the Bible) something after death, and it includes a judgement. What are your views on this, really? Are babies who die judged after death? On what basis would their judgement be?
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Believing in an 'age of accountability' would also strike down the doctrine of 'original sin' which is still highly favored in the church... It says that we were all 'Born in sin and shapen in iniquity' or some such... Basically laying those mistakes in the garden at our feet and making us personally responsible...
I don't believe in original sin, the age of accountability, or a literal hell so the whole concept is a moot point for me but I just thought I'd point out that that if you espouse the doctrine of original sin it's pretty hard to justify the doctrine of age of accountability although I hear preachers do it all the time by turns.
"And after that, the judgement." So there is (according to the Bible) something after death, and it includes a judgement. What are your views on this, really? Are babies who die judged after death? On what basis would their judgement be?
Exactly. Scripture even says that one is a sinner "from their youth," not from birth. My personal feeling, T, just a guess, is that, like, predestination and free will existing side by side, there is some other concept operating here that just wouldn't make much sense to us.
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