I was debating a Church member the other day about the Acts 2:38 "Plan of Salvation" asked them if someone was to repent and left church and died in a car accident without the other 2 steps would they be saved. He said not likey,so I said ok what about a wheelchair bound mentally hanidcap person that is not able to complete any of the steps are they saved? He tried to find some Age of Accountabilty scripture which there is not of,this I already knew but let him search anyway,thought I would have alittle fun with him for a little while. After he could not find any scripture,he said he thought they would be saved under the "Age of Accountabilty" rule, so I go to get scripture which I fill debunks the whole "Age of Accountibilty" thing I think,but what do you say????Read Proverbs 20:11 and Psalms 51:5 give your thoughts. This is why I disagree with the Acts 2:38 Plan is because it excludes certain people that cannot be Baptised or have no mental capacity to think on there own. The 2 scriptures above clearly state even as little ones we are aware of our actions..
To anyone who believes in the age of accountability doctrine, wherein a child that dies young enough (e.g., in infancy) goes to heaven:
Please stop.
Your belief can lead to murder. It's not just one of my hypotheticals, that seem to irritate some people around here : it has actually happened. In one case, a mother believed God told her to kill her children to spare them from things to come. If you believe in the age of accountability, you agree with her that her dead children are now in heaven (or soon will be, depending on certain other beliefs), and therefore killing them was a good thing.
So stop. Please.
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Hebrews 13:23 Know ye that our brother Timothy is set at liberty
? Um, yikes?
Whatever happened to Max Headroom, anyway?
I'll snail-load the Scriptures, and get back to you,
hopefully with a less disturbed reflection.
I was debating a Church member the other day about the Acts 2:38 "Plan of Salvation" asked them if someone was to repent and left church and died in a car accident without the other 2 steps would they be saved. He said not likey,so I said ok what about a wheelchair bound mentally hanidcap person that is not able to complete any of the steps are they saved? He tried to find some Age of Accountabilty scripture which there is not of,this I already knew but let him search anyway,thought I would have alittle fun with him for a little while. After he could not find any scripture,he said he thought they would be saved under the "Age of Accountabilty" rule, so I go to get scripture which I fill debunks the whole "Age of Accountibilty" thing I think,but what do you say????Read Proverbs 20:11 and Psalms 51:5 give your thoughts. This is why I disagree with the Acts 2:38 Plan is because it excludes certain people that cannot be Baptised or have no mental capacity to think on there own. The 2 scriptures above clearly state even as little ones we are aware of our actions..
Ok, completely ignoring the top part--which imo is asking the wrong Q--the Proverbs Scriptures highlight free will, not sin, I think. A baby can be willful, and is cognizant of wanting to get its way, but not be able to absorb the Law in that area yet, and so not "accountable." Imo.
? Um, yikes?
Whatever happened to Max Headroom, anyway?
I'll snail-load the Scriptures, and get back to you,
hopefully with a less disturbed reflection.
You aren't even trying to make sense, so why bother?
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Hebrews 13:23 Know ye that our brother Timothy is set at liberty
If you don't know the difference between right from wrong, how can you be held accountable?
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If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
2 Chronicles 7:14 KJV
He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
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If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
2 Chronicles 7:14 KJV
He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
For what it's worth, I don't try
to "answer" anymore, but "respond."
It's kind of a work in progress, so
pardon me there.
But really, because some disturbed
woman misinterpreted Scripture and
killed her children, this means that there
is no age of accountability, as a concept?
And I'm not making sense? K.
: it has actually happened. In one case, a mother believed God told her to kill her children to spare them from things to come. If you believe in the age of accountability, you agree with her that her dead children are now in heaven (or soon will be, depending on certain other beliefs), and therefore killing them was a good thing.
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