Having witnessed that whole debate, I certainly don't recall Newman being sent packing. I'm surprised you keep saying that, Bro. Epley.
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Originally Posted by Michael Phelps
Newman was never sent packing. The good Elder doesn't like to be confused by the facts. He's been called on it repeatedly, but continues to propogate the prevarication that Newman was chased out. I'm sure it's his perception, and in his mind, it's truth......just like most everything else he believes.
I concur.
Knowing Newman in the 'real' world of face to face interaction, truth be told, she no doubt has her reasons, which are her own to share or not share...she leads a busy life for starters.
But anyone who knows her, even in this realm, surely must know that Newman is her own girl...dances to her own beat.
Trust me...NO ONE could run her off if she chose to be here.
Respectfully I think Elder E thinks her silence is indicative of not having an answer. Wrong.
It may not be an answer I agree with, but again, trust me, Elder...Newman is NOT at a loss of a response.
RDP did not present his message in a humble and meek way, but instead berated, criticized and mocked anyone who asked a question, that he insinuated he had answered "before". He did not accept most references and commentaries, except for those ones who may have agreed with his position. All of the other ones were moot... to him. And who gets to determine which ones are right or wrong? Apparently the "great RDP" is the only one who gets to determine which source is correct.
If RDP really was concerned about the eternal welfare of the poor souls on AFF, his attitude certainly didn't display that at all. He came off as condescending, proud, and arrogant, and a haughty attitude to anyone with a different opinion than of himself, and with a desire to prove himself right, more than a desire to rescue all these poor souls from hell fire and brimstone.
An attitude change from RDP and Pliny would have gone a whole lot farther in this debate, but they refuse to see and acknowledge that.... just look at all the wild emoticons displayed on almost every line of his posts. A serious debater doesn't need to resort to these kind of methods to bring forth his point.
Knowing Newman in the 'real' world of face to face interaction, truth be told, she no doubt has her reasons, which are her own to share or not share...she leads a busy life for starters.
But anyone who knows her, even in this realm, surely must know that Newman is her own girl...dances to her own beat.
Trust me...NO ONE could run her off if she chose to be here.
Respectfully I think Elder E thinks her silence is indicative of not having an answer. Wrong.
It may not be an answer I agree with, but again, trust me, Elder...Newman is NOT at a loss of a response.
Sabellus does very well presenting his views, but Newman always presented her views equally well. To say that he trumped her wouldn't be correct.
Newman's contention with his view on "long hair" is that Sabellus used commentary that states, "It may be necessary to reach outside of the Greek to define long as uncut."
Newman questioned that if Paul was speaking to Greek people, why would he reach outside the Greek to do that. I have some of that conversation printed out.
If it were not for emoticons (don't confuse that with ultracons) rdp wouldn't really have anything to say. He (she?) is entertaining to say the least. Rdp certainly portrays the spirit and attitude of the ultracon camp so no wonder 'reverend' epley enjoys such shenanigans.
Anyone know how many men, women and children have died in the ultracon camp because of the typical ignorant teaching of the 'ministers' who teach it's a sin to go to the doctor? Especially those babies who died because it was a sin for a mother to go to a hospital and have their children, so they had them at home?
If it were not for emoticons (don't confuse that with ultracons) rdp wouldn't really have anything to say. He (she?) is entertaining to say the least. Rdp certainly portrays the spirit and attitude of the ultracon camp so no wonder 'reverend' epley enjoys such shenanigans.
Anyone know how many men, women and children have died in the ultracon camp because of the typical ignorant teaching of the 'ministers' who teach it's a sin to go to the doctor? ...
Don't know, but I suspect it's mostly children. Parents seem to stick to their principles better when it's their kids suffering, and not them.
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Don't know, but I suspect it's mostly children. Parents seem to stick to their principles better when it's their kids suffering, and not them.
Ya, and no doubt the reason that remarrying after a divorce (for any reason) is so acceptable among the UC elite, even though there is more bible for (or against) that than something as trivial as pants on women.
And why are women's holiness issues the ONLY subject that some want to debate?
Last edited by RandyWayne; 05-30-2013 at 10:13 AM.
My 2 cents worth!.... For rdp & Pliny, and I'm sorry to say, Elder Epley, (he put himself in their camp), to be so vicious and haughty with their attitude of knowing it all, why do they feel like 1 Corinthians 13 doesn't apply to them.
I'm sure they would quickly claim the previous chapter, 1 Cor 12, as speaking of them.
1 Cor 12:8* For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit;
And healing was brought up in the thread.
1 Cor 12:9* To another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit;
But what happened to them when it comes to the next chapter?
1 Cor. 13:1* ¶ Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal.
2* And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing.
3* And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not charity, it profiteth me nothing.
4* ¶ Charity suffereth long, and is kind; charity envieth not; charity vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up,
5* Doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil;
6* Rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth;
7* Beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things.
8* ¶ Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away.
And of course I could post the rest of the chapter, but I'll refrain because it's on the record, I don't like long posts.
God help me to remember my own words and always be charitable. It doesn't fail!
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If it were not for emoticons (don't confuse that with ultracons) rdp wouldn't really have anything to say. He (she?) is entertaining to say the least. Rdp certainly portrays the spirit and attitude of the ultracon camp so no wonder 'reverend' epley enjoys such shenanigans.
Anyone know how many men, women and children have died in the ultracon camp because of the typical ignorant teaching of the 'ministers' who teach it's a sin to go to the doctor? Especially those babies who died because it was a sin for a mother to go to a hospital and have their children, so they had them at home?
'Reverend' epley? Rdp?
To add insult to injury, I'm viewing most of this on my phone using Forum Runner. And in the main thread view, the emoticons don't even show up. So I just see endless codes with RDP writing hehehehehe. Lord have mercy.
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RDP did not present his message in a humble and meek way, but instead berated, criticized and mocked anyone who asked a question, that he insinuated he had answered "before". He did not accept most references and commentaries, except for those ones who may have agreed with his position. All of the other ones were moot... to him. And who gets to determine which ones are right or wrong? Apparently the "great RDP" is the only one who gets to determine which source is correct.
If RDP really was concerned about the eternal welfare of the poor souls on AFF, his attitude certainly didn't display that at all. He came off as condescending, proud, and arrogant, and a haughty attitude to anyone with a different opinion than of himself, and with a desire to prove himself right, more than a desire to rescue all these poor souls from hell fire and brimstone.
An attitude change from RDP and Pliny would have gone a whole lot farther in this debate, but they refuse to see and acknowledge that.... just look at all the wild emoticons displayed on almost every line of his posts. A serious debater doesn't need to resort to these kind of methods to bring forth his point.
Spot on!!
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He (she?) is entertaining to say the least. 
Rdp certainly portrays the spirit and attitude of the ultracon camp so no wonder 'reverend' epley enjoys such shenanigans. 
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