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04-09-2016, 03:22 PM
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Re: Calling on the Name of Jesus (at baptism)
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Well yes some have. But the idea that THE PERSON should call on the name seems to have gotten lost somewhere.
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Re: Calling on the Name of Jesus (at baptism)
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Well yes some have. But the idea that THE PERSON should call on the name seems to have gotten lost somewhere.
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I have never gone to a silent baptism where they didn't tell the one being baptized by the confession of your faith. As long as I can remember they were instructed to confess the name of Jesus. UPCI, ALJC, Spanish veil wearers, Brazilian and Haitian congregations all instructing the one being baptized to call on the name of JESUS. Never been to a baptism with someone just quietly going under.
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Re: Calling on the Name of Jesus (at baptism)
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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa
I have never gone to a silent baptism where they didn't tell the one being baptized by the confession of your faith. As long as I can remember they were instructed to confess the name of Jesus. UPCI, ALJC, Spanish veil wearers, Brazilian and Haitian congregations all instructing the one being baptized to call on the name of JESUS. Never been to a baptism with someone just quietly going under.
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I've been to few, if ever any, "Jesus name baptisms" where I recall anyone (being themselves baptised), directly prior to being baptised, ever spoke the name of Jesus out loud, rather they gave answers to the baptiser, i.e.: when asked for confirmation if they had repented of their sins, asked for forgiveness? They would nod or answer yes. Generally, the last time they actually called on the name of Jesus was 20 mins earlier during a smash face prayer meeting, and that was the last time they vocalized the name of Jesus until atleast when they came up out of the water. The baptiser did the vocalizing of Jesus. "Having repented of your sins, I now baptism you innthe name of Jesus for the remission of sins".
I don't recall ever seeing/hearing a baptiser encouraging the candidate to call on the name of Jesus AT baptism.
So, do you guys view that as scriptural allignment, "being baptised calling on the name of the Lord"?
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04-09-2016, 04:00 PM
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Re: Calling on the Name of Jesus (at baptism)
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I've been to few, if ever any, "Jesus name baptisms" where I recall anyone (being themselves baptised), directly prior to being baptised, ever spoke the name of Jesus out loud, rather they gave answers to the baptiser, i.e.: when asked for confirmation if they had repented of their sins, asked for forgiveness? They would nod or answer yes. Generally, the last time they actually called on the name of Jesus was 20 mins earlier, and that was the last time they vocalized the name of Jesus until atleast when they came up out of the water. The baptiser did the vocalizing of Jesus. "Having repented of your sins, I now baptism you innthe name of Jesus for the remission of sins".
So, do you guys view that as "being baptised calling on the name of the Lord"?
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Acts 22:16 And now what are you waiting for? Get up, be baptized and wash your sins away, calling on his name.'
James 2:7 Don't they blaspheme the noble name that was pronounced over you at your baptism? Holman Christian Standard Bible
James 2:7 is the baptizer, and Acts 22:16 is the baptizee.
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04-09-2016, 04:16 PM
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Re: Calling on the Name of Jesus (at baptism)
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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa
Acts 22:16 And now what are you waiting for? Get up, be baptized and wash your sins away, calling on his name.'
James 2:7 Don't they blaspheme the noble name that was pronounced over you at your baptism? Holman Christian Standard Bible
James 2:7 is the baptizer, and Acts 22:16 is the baptizee.
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I suppose the question is, what validates and can invalidate the baptism?
The baptiser not calling on the name of Jesus at baptism?
The baptisee not calling on the name of Jesus at baptism?
Neither?
Both?
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Re: Calling on the Name of Jesus (at baptism)
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Its what I've been doing all along. 
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Re: Calling on the Name of Jesus (at baptism)
Here's how we do it:
Going into the water, I tell the person to call upon the name of the Lord. I tell them to pray, and confess TO HIM their faith in him. Even if its as simple as them praying "Lord Jesus, save me!"
Then I dunk them, saying "I baptize you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of your sins."
If a person gives a confession of faith - "I believe Jesus Christ is the Son of God" - or something clearly to that effect, it's good enough for me. I've never seen anyone go down in the name who wasn't praying in the process, regardless whether it was me baptizing them or a UPC preacher or what have you.
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04-09-2016, 05:10 PM
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Re: Calling on the Name of Jesus (at baptism)
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Originally Posted by Esaias
Here's how we do it:
Going into the water, I tell the person to call upon the name of the Lord. I tell them to pray, and confess TO HIM their faith in him. Even if its as simple as them praying "Lord Jesus, save me!"
Then I dunk them, saying "I baptize you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of your sins."
If a person gives a confession of faith - "I believe Jesus Christ is the Son of God" - or something clearly to that effect, it's good enough for me. I've never seen anyone go down in the name who wasn't praying in the process, regardless whether it was me baptizing them or a UPC preacher or what have you.
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Amen, that is how I have always seen it done.
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04-09-2016, 05:47 PM
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Re: Calling on the Name of Jesus (at baptism)
In my Opening Post I stated someone close to me saw this recently... These folks are a UP Church... A Baptist minister friend baptizes in similar fashion - having the candidate state who saved them and call out the name of their Savior.
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04-09-2016, 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa
I understand, but we are baptizing, and it is the faith of the one being baptized which is paramount. They first must believe, repent, calling on the name of the Lord Jesus Christ as they go down in Jesus name. We as ministers are praying with them, and invoking the name of Christ with them. Yet, if I believe and they don't, or could care less, then my faith in Jesus name cannot help them one bit.
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Amen.
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