Thoughts On The Paranormal

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by acerrak

i dont think its a disembodied spirit, what i think is demonic spirits tend to take on the lord or the story of the area.

for instance, there is a insane asylum. If you want to get freaked out go take a tour. stuff moves on its own there and lots of noise.

They even brought a dog in and the dog was spooked. we know that the possesed was driven mad just like the man that 100 demons in him. I believe those demonic spirits still hang around such places even after there closed cause people draw attention to the supernatural.

so instead of a spirit of some one who died i believe its a demon.trying to take on the role of the story and the lore.

My wife and her sister saw her grandfather after he was killed or murdered in her grannies house after they buried him.

she would probably agree with you. ofcourse they group right next to a cemetary and played in when they was kids...

I know that demonic spirits can masquerade as "ghosts" or the spirits of the dead. However, there are those reports of encounters with spirits that are truly more like "ghosts" in the traditional sense, not demons. Perhaps both notions have an element of truth.

[acerrak]

Originally Posted by Aquila

I know that demonic spirits can masquerade as "ghosts" or the spirits of the dead. However, there are those reports of encounters with spirits that are truly more like "ghosts" in the traditional sense, not demons. Perhaps both notions have an element of truth.

but what is a ghost? could not a demon take on the form of said person? I really dont know. But the apostles must have believed in ghosts cause that is what they thought when they first saw Jesus after the ressurection.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by acerrak

but what is a ghost? could not a demon take on the form of said person? I really dont know. But the apostles must have believed in ghosts cause that is what they thought when they first saw Jesus after the ressurection.

True, I know that in ancient Judaism they believed that the soul was divided up in various parts that each had it's destiny in different places. Weird. lol

[AreYouReady?]

I too have experienced some of the paranormal in times past as well as my husband.

I lived in a house that was divided up into two apartments. I would hear noises and get creepy, cold feelings. When I tried to discuss the phenomena with my pastor, he dismissed it as demons cannot live within four walls, that it must live within the human body.

But...that explanation did little to explain why my aloe vera plant was plucked up from it's pot by the roots. Or bump noises on the wall behind my bed at night. So...I decided it was a rat, although I never ever saw any evidence of a rat such as droppings or chewing of box food and such.

I got to the point where I just kind of dreaded going home at night. I started to get very depressed, crying for no good reason. And dreams....


One day I was visiting with my neighbor, who lived in the other apartment. I told her that I heard her little boy kicking the wall last night, assuming his bed was next to the wall as most people use the wall as a partial barrier to help keep them from falling out of bed. She looked at me...almost in horror. Then she said that she wanted to show me something. So she took me into his bedroom and the entire wall behind my bedroom wall was full of metal shelves from end to end with all his toys and books and what nots on it. His bed was at the other end.

I went hmmmmmm.....

She told me that one night she could not sleep so she flicked on the light and got a book out to read. All of a sudden, her boy's toy fireman hat's siren went off (like a firetruck). It sits on the top shelf in his bedroom. The boy was sleeping so soundly it did not wake him up.

Hmmmmm.....

So... the last straw for me was one day I came home and found my aloe vera plant plucked up by the roots and on my living room floor at least 15 feet from where I kept the pot.

I made quick plans to move.

On moving day, my neighbor two doors down, a Holy Ghost filled-woman, said to me..."Well...now that you decided to move, I just want to tell you that the woman who used to own that house was very depressed. She decided to kill herself by turning on the gas and lighting a match. They say that the explosion was so great that they could not scrape all of her brains off the bedroom wall".

Now I think to myself...if the explosion was that great, why is the house still standing? But nevertheless, I had enough.

[Aquila]

My girlfriend and I had a season of paranormal events. I'm still not all that comfortable talking about them. Most of them took place at my apartment. One took place at her mom's house.

When we began dating she lived in Lebanon Ohio and she would come to Dayton to visit me. Her mom and dad lived in Dayton so she'd stay at her parent's house, although she and her daughter spent most of the time with me and my little boy. One night I was at her mom's and her mom and dad turned in early. They said I could stay the night and we talked on the front porch for a few hours about the Lord and spiritual warfare. We decided to turn in and my girlfriend was turning my bed down in the guest room... her daughter, Addison (four years old at the time) walked into the doorway and just stood there. She had a dark haze-like shadowing around her face. It wasn’t right. My hair stood on end (you never get used to this sort of thing). Christina was clearly very shaken and hesitantly said, “Addison?” Addy just stood there staring at me. It felt like a very confrontational warning. We silently prayed and approached the little girl and woke her out of her sleep walk. Addison often gets afraid of the dark, disturbed, and troubled from time to time with nightmares and night scares. She said a woman named “Stacy” was “visiting” with her. She said that Stacy scared her and she wanted Stacy to go home. We had our Assistant Pastor prayed with us over a prayer cloth and we put it in Addison’s pillow. We also anointed Addison with oil and prayed for the spirits troubling her to go away. She’s been in relative peace since.

Another incident occured when Christina was visiting me at my apartment. We were talking and out of nowhere a glass shattered in the kitchen of its own accord. In that appartment we heard a female voice on several occasions, electronic toys and appliances came on by themselves, dishes were moved from the sink to the floor in a circular pattern after we left the kitchen only to discover them 15 minutes later when we returned. I had moments of feeling feelings of absolute dread on the property. I think the moving dishes were the last straw for me. I decided I wanted to move asap. To this day my son and her daughter call the apartment "the scary house" because they saw things.

Since I've moved there hasn't been any problems.

When talking about the apartment I asked her what she felt was wrong. Both of us, without collaborating, felt like (if we didn't know better) there was a demonic presence and the human presence of a woman. I can't explain exactly what the situation was... but it seemed we had both a ghost and a demonic spirit.

[AreYouReady?]

I remember one night when I couldn't sleep...I was sitting on the couch doing some kind of craft like crocheting or painting and listening to late night talk shows. My dog, who is quite old now, was laying on the far end of the couch.

Out of the corner of my eye, I saw a shadow, about the size of a small armadillo run under my coffee table and into the heating/cooling duct. I just shook my head and thought that I was just imagining it. Just then, my dog took off woofing and ran to the duct and started sniffing the duct. Well...maybe it wasn't my imagination after all?

Don't know what it was, never saw it again, but it was neither good nor evil feeling. It was just there and gone.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by AreYouReady?

I remember one night when I couldn't sleep...I was sitting on the couch doing some kind of craft like crocheting or painting and listening to late night talk shows. My dog, who is quite old now, was laying on the far end of the couch.

Out of the corner of my eye, I saw a shadow, about the size of a small armadillo run under my coffee table and into the heating/cooling duct. I just shook my head and thought that I was just imagining it. Just then, my dog took off woofing and ran to the duct and started sniffing the duct. Well...maybe it wasn't my imagination after all?

Don't know what it was, never saw it again, but it was neither good nor evil feeling. It was just there and gone.

Could it have been a rodent? They can really flatten their bodies to slide under doors and things.

[AreYouReady?]

No, it wasn't a rodent. I thought so at first but it did not have any defined shape to it. More like a smoky shadow...blobby-like...fluffy. It's hard to describe. It was noiseless, unlike rodents. If this was a rodent, I would have heard it scurrying and it would not have fit through these vents.

It's one of those things I just shrugged my shoulders on.

I have another late night story that is almost unbelievable, but it happened. I don't think I will post that story on here though.

[RandyWayne]

Originally Posted by Aquila

I was talking to a friend of mine and the topic of the paranormal and ghosts came up. He shared his opinion with me and I found it interesting. So I thought I'd revive this conversation. He explained that man is a trichotomy (body, soul, and spirit). He essentially explained that when one dies their body is burried in the ground and physical consciousness ends. The soul is the seat of personality and emotions, and proceeds into the afterlife. The spirits of the unsaved are essentially natural life-forces that might continue linger on the earthly plane in a given location or around the body until they dissipate... or are removed. He explained that when one encounters a ghost, they are encountering the disembodied "spirit" or "life-force" of a person.

What intrigued me is the complexity of his opinion. Categorically, a person can exist in three distinct places at once. The body can physically reside in the grave. The soul can consciously exist in the afterlife. The spirit can linger on the earthly plane.

Thoughts???

That is almost exactly how I see it. It also explains the majority of hauntings that seem to be like a recording playing over and over again with no intelligence to them.

[seekerman]

Why did I click on this thread right before bedtime?