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Old 11-23-2012, 02:46 PM
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That is an asinine statement. Nobody denied there aren't any republicans that are racists.
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Old 11-23-2012, 02:51 PM
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That is an asinine statement. Nobody denied there aren't any republicans that are racists.
So, if there are racist Republicans, are there Republicans criticizing Rice because they are racist?
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So, if there are racist Republicans, are there Republicans criticizing Rice because they are racist?
I guarantee there are far more Democrats wanting to give Rice a pass because of her race than there are Repubs criticizing her because of her race.

Truthfully, I doubt there are many true racists in either party. Bigots maybe, but not racists.
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So, if there are racist Republicans, are there Republicans criticizing Rice because they are racist?
I didn't say there are racist rebublicans.

Prove the Republicans criticizing Rice are racists. Then prove their reasons for the criticism is racism.
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I didn't say there are racist rebublicans.

Prove the Republicans criticizing Rice are racists. Then prove their reasons for the criticism is racism.
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Here's the rub on the Benghazi affair, maybe not provable, maybe so: The Democrats just had their convention where they had boasted the president's tough foreign policy credentials. Osama Bin Laden is dead! Al Qaeda is on the run! We've decimated their infrastructure and created chaos in their leadership! We've done more than George Bush did! Then, a week later, on the anniversary of 9/11 at a time when there should've been heightened security and awareness, especially in places that had warning signs and threats in the recent past, we are attacked by Al Qaeda linked terrorists. Four Americans are killed. And the Obama campaign knew they had major damage control on their hands. This would be a gift to the Romney campaing and it would greatly undermine the entire Democratic convention theme. The move was calculated and political. They chose to downplay and outright lie about what happened hoping the media would ignore it and they could make it to Nov. 6 all the details emerged.

The Chicago political machine is masterful at the bloodsport of politics. They know how to destroy an oppoenent by undermining his public perception, and they are pros at hiding the trith when it makes them look bad. A willing MSM took the explanation at face value when everyone knows had it been the Bush admin GOP president it wouldve been front page news for the remainder of the campaign.

Whether Ms. Rice is competent or not is irrelevant to me. Whoever gets the job will promote the Obama Doctrine. It won't matter who gets the job.

The real issue is the willingness to keep our service men and women, the intelligence community and our State department employees without the security that should they be in danger, if its politically uncomfortable, this administration is willing to sacrifice them to maintain their ideology. An ideologically driven presidency is more of a concern to me, especially when the ideology is bent toward abortion, gay rights, socialism, a diminished American role in the world, higher taxes, a reluctance to cut spending (especially on entitlements), an eagerness to cut military budgets, and many other liberal government theories and experimentations.

The cry of racism is a juvenile reaction to avoid the real substantive arguments that are on the table in order to give someone a pass.
I think that is a good explanation of the whole mess.
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Here's the rub on the Benghazi affair, maybe not provable, maybe so: The Democrats just had their convention where they had boasted the president's tough foreign policy credentials. Osama Bin Laden is dead! Al Qaeda is on the run! We've decimated their infrastructure and created chaos in their leadership! We've done more than George Bush did! Then, a week later, on the anniversary of 9/11 at a time when there should've been heightened security and awareness, especially in places that had warning signs and threats in the recent past, we are attacked by Al Qaeda linked terrorists. Four Americans are killed. And the Obama campaign knew they had major damage control on their hands. This would be a gift to the Romney campaing and it would greatly undermine the entire Democratic convention theme. The move was calculated and political. They chose to downplay and outright lie about what happened hoping the media would ignore it and they could make it to Nov. 6 all the details emerged.

The Chicago political machine is masterful at the bloodsport of politics. They know how to destroy an oppoenent by undermining his public perception, and they are pros at hiding the trith when it makes them look bad. A willing MSM took the explanation at face value when everyone knows had it been the Bush admin GOP president it wouldve been front page news for the remainder of the campaign.

Whether Ms. Rice is competent or not is irrelevant to me. Whoever gets the job will promote the Obama Doctrine. It won't matter who gets the job.

The real issue is the willingness to keep our service men and women, the intelligence community and our State department employees without the security that should they be in danger, if its politically uncomfortable, this administration is willing to sacrifice them to maintain their ideology. An ideologically driven presidency is more of a concern to me, especially when the ideology is bent toward abortion, gay rights, socialism, a diminished American role in the world, higher taxes, a reluctance to cut spending (especially on entitlements), an eagerness to cut military budgets, and many other liberal government theories and experimentations.

The cry of racism is a juvenile reaction to avoid the real substantive arguments that are on the table in order to give someone a pass.
*BAM!* hit the nail on the head.
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Whether Ms. Rice is competent or not is irrelevant to me. Whoever gets the job will promote the Obama Doctrine. It won't matter who gets the job.

The real issue is the willingness to keep our service men and women, the intelligence community and our State department employees without the security that should they be in danger, if its politically uncomfortable, this administration is willing to sacrifice them to maintain their ideology. An ideologically driven presidency is more of a concern to me, especially when the ideology is bent toward abortion, gay rights, socialism, a diminished American role in the world, higher taxes, a reluctance to cut spending (especially on entitlements), an eagerness to cut military budgets, and many other liberal government theories and experimentations.

The cry of racism is a juvenile reaction to avoid the real substantive arguments that are on the table in order to give someone a pass.

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