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Old 05-30-2012, 07:28 PM
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This is good advice. There is nothing wrong with getting a trained perspective about life issues that many people have.
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I remember I used to go see one that offered completely free therapy, I might be able to go to that one still.
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I'm just going to answer this one before I go. I weaned myself five months ago off 40 mgs daily adderall, 3 mgs daily xanax, and 20 mgs nightly ambien, as well as too many street drugs and unprescribed narcotics to name. I currently take 160 mgs Geodon nightly for bipolar disorder, and it worked just fine for five months. I attribute this breakdown to a stressful job that I hate and want desperately to be away from, the death of my mother at a point when nobody truely close like that to me has died, the possibility of my aunt, who is basically my mother now, could die in surgery, nightmares, coming home to my empty house without anyone around and really grasping the meaning of being truely alone for a few hours, and who knows what else, I'm no doctor. I'm the most undermedicated I've been since I'm 13 years old, and five months without an anxiety attack is a small record for me. Right now, I'm just trying to take it one step at a time, and step number one before anything else is catching up on sleep. Goodnight my friend.
I am not a doctor or an expert in these matters, but from your symptoms it seems like 160 of Geodon at night might be high for a one time dose, I would think that it would be split with 80 in the morning around 7:00 am and 80 in the after noon about 2:00 pm. that would give you a steady dose of medicine during the day.

Of course changing or reducing a dosage is not easy it takes medical support from people who know the right way to make changes or wean you off the medication.

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I am not a doctor or an expert in these matters, but from your symptoms it seems like 160 of Geodon at night might be high for a one time dose, I would think that it would be split with 80 in the morning around 7:00 am and 80 in the after noon about 2:00 pm. that would give you a steady dose of medicine during the day.

Of course changing or reducing a dosage is not easy it takes medical support from people who know the right way to make changes or wean you off the medication.
It puts me to sleep, I can't take it in the daytime. I'm doing fine on it. I just have a lot of stress on me I'm not used to handling. My medicine doesn't need to be changed.
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Sleep is awesome.
For someone such as I who at one time, used to have stress issues so strong that I could not sleep...I would most definitely have to agree with you. It's like a cool splash of water on a extremely hot day.

Let me congratulate you on weaning yourself off those prescription drugs. Those were heavy duty drugs and I bet the doctors had no inclinations to help you wean?

If Geodon helps you to get the rest you need to sort through the complex issues you have been dealing with, then it is needful.
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For someone such as I who at one time, used to have stress issues so strong that I could not sleep...I would most definitely have to agree with you. It's like a cool splash of water on a extremely hot day.

Let me congratulate you on weaning yourself off those prescription drugs. Those were heavy duty drugs and I bet the doctors had no inclinations to help you wean?

If Geodon helps you to get the rest you need to sort through the complex issues you have been dealing with, then it is needful.
Your inclination is right. When I told the doctor my mind was on overdrive, and her solution was to up my adderall, I knew I had to help myself. I may have spoke wrong when I said wean, as it was more like, "OK today is the day I stop adderall" and I stopped that day, one medicine at a time.
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Most people do not know the vicious cycle one may find themselves in when they seek help from a medical doctor.

The really good, caring physicians will look for the cause and not just treat the symptoms that keep you coming back over and over again. This only fattens Big Pharma's pockets as well as pay the doctors house mortgage. They know this.

We once had a lawyer...who when we paid him thousands of $$, he turned on us because he saw more gain from the other side. Dirty. He left the region as soon as he finished his dirty work.

Some doctors will do it to you over and over and not bat an eye.

One has to take over the care of their own body. Nobody, except God knows what you need better than you.
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Old 06-07-2012, 09:00 PM
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Your inclination is right. When I told the doctor my mind was on overdrive, and her solution was to up my adderall, I knew I had to help myself. I may have spoke wrong when I said wean, as it was more like, "OK today is the day I stop adderall" and I stopped that day, one medicine at a time.
Before I start with my story, which is similar to yours, let me say if you were for sure, 100%, diagnosed as bi-polar then consult with your pastor and a specialist (a Christian one if you can find one) before you come off the meds treating that. I am not bi-polar, but a step-uncle was bi-polar and manic and between constantly changing meds, trying to cope with life and trying to adjust his own medication he ended up hanging himself.

Okay, my story. In early 2010, I was in a very similar situation. I hated my job, one I couldn't leave due to my wife being pregnant. I was depressed off and on, I'd had panic attacks. I was on Concerta for ADHD and some other drug as a mood relaxer. I got off the mood relaxer after a month because it numbed me even more. I hated myself, but suicide wasn't an option, though the enemy took advantage of my situation. To make matters worse I wasn't going to church (running from my calling). I wasn't out doing a bunch of crazy stuff, didn't have doctrine issues - I didn't do what a lot of people do when they quit going to church. Wife didn't cut her hair and wear makeup, etc. Our daughter was going to be raised the way we believed.

After a month of the mood relaxer I quit. It didn't help, I felt. Eventually I lost my job, while my wife was on maternity leave - the day after I told them my wife was going to have a C-Section the next week. Eventually (this past January I think) I completely quit all the ADHD meds. I only got a scrip at her behest, thinking it might help with my job at that time. I took my last one in January or February. It was a waste of my money.

In the end, what I needed was to quit running from God (not saying that's what your problem is) and get more sleep. It was a process, but I buried myself in scripture (see below) and prayer. I prayed until I had a breakthrough and my spirit was healed from all lingering depression. I added fasting to my prayer (which I don't recommend if your meds/job don't allow it - modify your fast if you do it) and it helped immensely. I confessed all unforgiveness and sin in my life, repented of my ways, claimed scripture over my life and prayed until I broke through the dark curtain over my mind and spirit. I'm at a better, higher paying job (for now - see Hostess, lol)

That's my advice to you, deepen your walk with Him. Submerse yourself in His Spirit and don't come up until you are healed & delivered or it's time to go to bed. Keep doing it. Don't ever quit. Make your walk with Jesus Christ your life, your breath. Get rid of all things that won't/doesn't please Him. If it isn't uplifting, don't watch/read/listen to it (See Phil 4:8). As a married man, if it doesn't please my wife, I don't involve myself with it. The communication remains open, trust is there. Same in walking with Christ. The most amazing things will happen in your life. Also, if possible, find someone in your local church or someone you can call regularly (everyday if need be) to help you along. We can't make it on our own. We need each other. If you do the above things I promise you God will bring you out of the other side of the tunnel.

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Phil 4:8 Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things.

Is 26:3 Thou wilt keep him in perfect peace, whose mind is stayed on thee: because he trusteth in thee.

Ps 119:165 Great peace have they which love thy law: and nothing shall offend them.

Nehemiah 8:10 Then he said unto them, Go your way, eat the fat, and drink the sweet, and send portions unto them for whom nothing is prepared: for this day is holy unto our Lord: neither be ye sorry; for the joy of the LORD is your strength.

Is 40:31 But they that wait upon the LORD shall renew their strength; they shall mount up with wings as eagles; they shall run, and not be weary; and they shall walk, and not faint.

Ps 16:11 Thou wilt shew me the path of life: in thy presence is fulness of joy; at thy right hand there are pleasures for evermore.

I Cor 14:33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.

Heb 12:2 Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.

2 Tim 1:7 For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind.

Romans 14:17 For the kingdom of God is not meat and drink; but righteousness, and peace, and joy in the Holy Ghost.

Romans 15:13 Now the God of hope fill you with all joy and peace in believing, that ye may abound in hope, through the power of the Holy Ghost.

Matthew 6:33 But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.

These are but a few of the scriptures that will help. If there is anything else I can do let me know I will be praying. God bless!
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Old 06-08-2012, 05:07 AM
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Re: Help...please.

Also, if you can, try to spend the 1st 15 minutes of prayer time and the last 15 minutes (or 10) just meditating on the Lord and the scriptures. It helps calm the mind and spirit and will help to strengthen you. It will make your prayer time more focused and your day better overall. You will also find yourself hearing from God more when the muddy waters of a mind on overdrive clear up.
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Old 06-08-2012, 08:36 AM
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Bi-polar? Read The Trillion Dollar Conspiracy about "bi-polar."
I'm sorry, but your Dr. is not your friend.
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