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Old 09-24-2007, 07:12 PM
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RC, your false piety is quite sickening.. especially when I have read some of the puke coming from your keyboard! Your glass house makes you very suspect when you start condemning others... I am putting you on ignore because when I stumble on anything you post it more often than not makes me retch!
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Old 09-24-2007, 07:56 PM
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I'm amazed. So far after having read most of this thread I don't see anyone here that thinks Ah-MAD-inejad is a great guy and a gift to the nations. I'll call him MAD for short.

Some would like to see MAD's demise in a swift or maybe not so swift fashion. It wouldn't hurt my feelings if MAD were overthrown [understated for emphasis]. MAD has called for the destruction of Israel and he hates the US. And even if he might have a valid reason or two for hating the US, he still is the enemy of peace. The enemy (satan) comes to steal, kill, and destroy. So it would seem, as he follows that train of thought he might be under the influence of the real enemy.

He seems like he'd be a hard man to make friends with and is not particularly likable, but then again Jesus didn't command us to like everybody now did He?
He does direct us to pray for our enemies and MAD highly qualifies.

Wouldn't it be awesome if this rank sinner would come to repentance? If he does not he has worse problems then an irritated American public.

It will not hurt to pray that God would work in MAD's life, either for his salvation or destruction.

While I'd not totally rule out his being "taken out", perhaps he is playing a part in the Lord's end time plan. And if he is perhaps our attempts on his live would be fruitless.

I'm placing my trust in Lord and believe He'll work it all out for His Kingdoms sake.

Rest easy my friends God's got it all under control!
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Old 09-26-2007, 01:31 PM
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Ahmadinejad, Chavez, 김정일 (Kim Jong-il), and any others who beat down, steal, oppress, and murder their own citizens should go the way of Saddam and have America come in to clean up their mess.

It was stupid of Columbia U to host this cockroach of a leader. They shouldn't have given him the forum on our soil to spew his hate for our ideals, lies of history or lies of today.

Freedom of speech? Tell that to my Iranian friend who had to flee with his family from Iran because of a death sentence placed on them for confessing Jesus Christ to be God.

Oh by the way do I smell a veggie tale on this thread?
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Old 09-26-2007, 03:54 PM
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Ahmadinejad, Chavez, 김정일 (Kim Jong-il), and any others who beat down, steal, oppress, and murder their own citizens should go the way of Saddam and have America come in to clean up their mess.

It was stupid of Columbia U to host this cockroach of a leader. They shouldn't have given him the forum on our soil to spew his hate for our ideals, lies of history or lies of today.

Freedom of speech? Tell that to my Iranian friend who had to flee with his family from Iran because of a death sentence placed on them for confessing Jesus Christ to be God.

Oh by the way do I smell a veggie tale on this thread?
lol...

yes, my friend, you smell a veggie tale... lol
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Old 09-26-2007, 05:46 PM
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If Akampuke, were an American and held these views, I would say he has every right as an American to say what ever he wants without the fear of Government persecution.

That still would not mean, I think Columbia should host the nut.

As Akmapuke isnt an American, nor does he live in the USA neither legally nor illegally therefore no aspect of the Constitution need be extended to him. Freedom of speach in America is not his.

He should not be allowed to hail a cab much less give a speach. and he still needs a good killing.
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Old 09-26-2007, 05:58 PM
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If Akampuke, were an American and held these views, I would say he has every right as an American to say what ever he wants without the fear of Government persecution.

That still would not mean, I think Columbia should host the nut.

As Akmapuke isnt an American, nor does he live in the USA neither legally nor illegally therefore no aspect of the Constitution need be extended to him. Freedom of speach in America is not his.

He should not be allowed to hail a cab much less give a speach. and he still needs a good killing.
ok... for one, on a foriegn policy level, killing him would be bad because:

A) as we've learned, they can always get crazier in the Middle East

B) we don't have the manpower to keep peace in Iraq & Iran at the same time...

for two, on a Chrisitan level, I just really don't see how "he needs a good killing" fits in with how Christ said we should act... Please, though, explain to me how that fits in with what Christ said... I'd love to hear it...

and the Constitution has nothing to do with it.... He's the dictator of a country, he has more freedom of speech than we do, he can literally say whatever he wants and if someone doesn't like it, he'll kill them for not liking it... (assuming this is in his own country)
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Old 09-26-2007, 06:52 PM
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ok... for one, on a foriegn policy level, killing him would be bad because:

A) as we've learned, they can always get crazier in the Middle East

B) we don't have the manpower to keep peace in Iraq & Iran at the same time...

for two, on a Chrisitan level, I just really don't see how "he needs a good killing" fits in with how Christ said we should act... Please, though, explain to me how that fits in with what Christ said... I'd love to hear it...

and the Constitution has nothing to do with it.... He's the dictator of a country, he has more freedom of speech than we do, he can literally say whatever he wants and if someone doesn't like it, he'll kill them for not liking it... (assuming this is in his own country)
well, the constitution comment was an argument against those that have suggested (though not here) that Akmapuke should get to speak in Columbia because of "free speach" or some such.

also, I agree with you that the US Government has no buisness attempting to kill Akmapuke.

additionally the fact remains that akmapuke like bin laden needs a good killin'

more over their really isnt a way to say "he needs a good killin' and still be speaking in perfect christian love. so I am sorry i am a frail human. I look forward to the day when I am as perfected as larry boy.

As far as any understanding of the orriginal question is concerned, it is impossible to make any claim of understanding God's view of the matter. His ways remain above our ways. and lets not forget, the death penalty was carried out by God upon 2 people who simply lied to Peter.

and lastly akmapuke still needs a good killin'
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Old 09-26-2007, 07:07 PM
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well, the constitution comment was an argument against those that have suggested (though not here) that Akmapuke should get to speak in Columbia because of "free speach" or some such.

also, I agree with you that the US Government has no buisness attempting to kill Akmapuke.

additionally the fact remains that akmapuke like bin laden needs a good killin'

more over their really isnt a way to say "he needs a good killin' and still be speaking in perfect christian love. so I am sorry i am a frail human. I look forward to the day when I am as perfected as larry boy.

As far as any understanding of the orriginal question is concerned, it is impossible to make any claim of understanding God's view of the matter. His ways remain above our ways. and lets not forget, the death penalty was carried out by God upon 2 people who simply lied to Peter.

and lastly akmapuke still needs a good killin'
Now boys, lets discuss this thang without taking it to a personal level.

LB does have valid points and so do you Ferd.

I think both human nature and our spirit man would agree that our enemies need to be destroyed. But I think one would try to do it with love the other with a physical weapon.

Yes the bible does indeed say we should pray for our enemies, but does it tell us what to pray? Is pray'n that God changes your enemy to ashes in order? Or should we pray that the enemies soul can be saved and his status changed from enemy to brother?
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Old 09-26-2007, 08:13 PM
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well, the constitution comment was an argument against those that have suggested (though not here) that Akmapuke should get to speak in Columbia because of "free speach" or some such.

also, I agree with you that the US Government has no buisness attempting to kill Akmapuke.

additionally the fact remains that akmapuke like bin laden needs a good killin'

more over their really isnt a way to say "he needs a good killin' and still be speaking in perfect christian love. so I am sorry i am a frail human. I look forward to the day when I am as perfected as larry boy.

As far as any understanding of the orriginal question is concerned, it is impossible to make any claim of understanding God's view of the matter. His ways remain above our ways. and lets not forget, the death penalty was carried out by God upon 2 people who simply lied to Peter.

and lastly akmapuke still needs a good killin'
we might not be able to know God's opinion, but since His ways are higher than our ways, him killing poeple has no bearing on if we should support that ourselves or even do so ourselves... His ways are higher than our ways, thus we can't just go "Well, God killed 'em so we're good to go on the killing front!"...

And we also can know what our view on things is suppose to be. We are told to love our enemies, even those who hate, persecute, and kill us... Just because we have the "power" position in the world right now doesn't change that... (note: it also doesn't mean we shouldn't defend ourselves as a nation, but we need to be careful in how we do that, the attitude you are displaying is not the way that we should be doing it)

and the fact that you can't discuss this without making it personal just shows that I am right in what I say....
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Old 09-26-2007, 08:57 PM
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I thought i was pretty funny actually. and hey, who says you arent more perfected than me? clearly you are acting like the christian here...

please notice, I also agreed with you that the US shouldnt kill akmawhatshisface.

but honestly you gotta admit, were this guy to have something occur that lead to his no longer being involved in the affairs of nations, we would all be happy.

come on guys im just having a little fun. LB, dude, you would argue with a fence post! which works, because this place is full of people like us!
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