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Old 10-21-2010, 09:47 AM
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In which category are you?

Silly for me to answer for him(gender neutral), but he may not fall, necessarily, into either category. I think his statement was indicating a proclivity, not an absolute.
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You know, I'll settle for dinner with the former AFF owner at Jim & Nick's! I went to the bank yesterday, reached for an ink pen at the drive-thru window, and what was written on the pen? Jim & Nick's. It made my hungry.
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Old 10-21-2010, 09:51 AM
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Do I get a trophy or a royalty check?

You know, I'll settle for dinner with the former AFF owner at Jim & Nick's! I went to the bank yesterday, reached for an ink pen at the drive-thru window, and what was written on the pen? Jim & Nick's. It made my hungry.
Just the satisfaction that you have a lengthy and healthy discussion thread - - that's all the reward.

As for the dinner - - make it happen!!
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Old 10-21-2010, 09:52 AM
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You make a major presupposition that people are "born gay" or that somehow same-sex attraction is normal (and yes, we are talking from a spiritual perspective here).
I'd say it's part of the sin nature of man. It's "natural" in the sense that sin comes "naturally" to mankind. The natural man cannot receive spiritual things, for example. So, it is "natural" for many. But I'd not say it is "normal" or what is by design.

As for being born gay... I believe we're all born sinners. Our flesh has chemicals, pharomones, hormones, etc. that all drive us to temptations and sinful actions. In our flesh, there is no good thing. We're fallen and sinful, body, soul, and spirit. I've known gays who were gay from before they were 8 years old. And they came from very happy and healthy homes where their brothers and sisters turned out just fine. I think we heep a lot of guilt on parents by saying it's purely "environmental". Parents start weeping wondering, "Where did I go wrong?" Truth is... they didn't. It's that whole sin nature thing operating in their child's flesh... i.e.... biology of a fallen human being.

Now, I don't think that biology is always a cause. I do believe that some suffer abuses that lead to this attraction.

I also believe that for some it's just a "kink" they prefer.

So in short, I see it as a more complex issue than many. That's my take on it. I could be wrong... but I hope that clarifies.

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Is anyone here living a sinless life? I'm just curious.
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Old 10-21-2010, 09:59 AM
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I've not killed anyone - - does that count for anything?
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Is anyone here living a sinless life? I'm just curious.
The bible says Straight is the way. Not kinky.
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The bible says Straight is the way. Not kinky.

Coadie, that's actually funny. Way to go. Are you back on your meds?
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In which category are you?
MB,

I am not sure I can definitively put myself into either category.

After my meltdown, and there are some thoughts I would like share about that part of my life sometime if anyone cares to know, I was so angry with God that I turned my back on anything pertaining to the Bible and church. So for awhile I was definitely in the former camp.

By the way, a lot of gays never get past this stage.

Over a period of many years my anger cooled to the point where I could begin to think about God. And even at times, pray.

Unlike a lot of my gay friends I have felt and seen the power of the God. I have ministered in the spirit. (And I do want to share my thoughts on the topic of demonic possession as well since that has been tossed into the ring.) So I am not so quick to throw the Bible completely away now as I was once before.

There are days I struggle with the scripture and then there are days I do not. I suppose that really isn't the answer you were looking for but it's the best I can do for now.
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