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View Poll Results: How many times did you ask for the Holy Ghost
1 11 30.56%
2 1 2.78%
3 2 5.56%
4 0 0%
5-10 1 2.78%
10-20 0 0%
More than 20 21 58.33%
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Old 06-15-2010, 06:04 PM
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Re: How many times did you ask God for the Holy Gh

luzsilver how do you know god understands them.....? What scripture tells you god understands tongues...
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Old 06-15-2010, 06:57 PM
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luzsilver how do you know god understands them.....? What scripture tells you god understands tongues...
God gives the utterance. The words don't come from our understanding.
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Someone please tell me why so many say the same things over and over.... same short utterances, over & over & over? Is God so limited in His language that that is all He can say? Please I'm not interested in arguing, but would just like someone to explain the whys.......

Don't jump to another subject...just answer why the limited utterances! Please!

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Okay, that makes sense.

NOW, is that you? lol
Nope. When I've done a fake before, I argued with myself. When I couldn't get anyone to fight, I just created a fight!

That's my problem here....most of these guys won't fight with me anymore because they can't come up with answers to my questions, so I have to create my own fight! Like Blume....he won't answer my simple request for one verse in the bible where anyone "tried to get the Holy Ghost" and didn't get it.

So maybe I'll just create another character!
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Someone please tell me why so many say the same things over and over.... same short utterances, over & over & over? Is God so limited in His language that that is all He can say? Please I'm not interested in arguing, but would just like someone to explain the whys.......

Don't jump to another subject...just answer why the limited utterances! Please!

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Heavenly is a language, after all. Some people just like to repeat things a lot. E.g., "You go girl! You go girl! You go girl!" (in Heavenly, of course).
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Someone please tell me why so many say the same things over and over.... same short utterances, over & over & over? Is God so limited in His language that that is all He can say? Please I'm not interested in arguing, but would just like someone to explain the whys.......

Don't jump to another subject...just answer why the limited utterances! Please!

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I believe that you may be describing "ecstatic utterances." This is a phenomena that has been observed going back millennia and is contrasted with the events described in Acts 2. However, it is likely the same phenomena Paul mentions in 1 Corinthians.

Due to our common inability to even identify this phenomena clearly as a "language" it is often called "tongues of angels" as per 1 Corinthians 13; though we have no way of knowing if it is the same thing as what Paul had in mind there.
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I believe that you may be describing "ecstatic utterances." This is a phenomena that has been observed going back millennia and is contrasted with the events described in Acts 2. However, it is likely the same phenomena Paul mentions in 1 Corinthians.

Due to our common inability to even identify this phenomena clearly as a "language" it is often called "tongues of angels" as per 1 Corinthians 13; though we have no way of knowing if it is the same thing as what Paul had in mind there.

So, you do not believe that any of this is "learned utterances?"

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Re: How many times did you ask God for the Holy Gh

Some languages, or dialects repeat phrases, or words.
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Some languages, or dialects repeat phrases, or words.
Yeah, like the Indians in Peter Pan!
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So, you do not believe that any of this is "learned utterances?"

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No, that's bouncing back to the other extreme. "Any of this...?" That encompasses a great deal things for our consideration.

From my own experience, I have heard people who were either subconsciously or deliberately repeating something "in tongues" that they (and everyone else in the room!) had just heard. We are taught to not "judge" such things but to just let it pass, so who knows?

Once when the pastor was preaching he kept "slipping" into "speaking in tongues" in a manner that we've all probably seen. One guy in the congregation (who had been around for years and was considered 'seasoned') would shout many of the same syllables right back at the pastor. The exchange went back and forth several times until the pastor looked up and appeared to finally notice what was happening. He didn't "slip" into "tongues" again for the rest of the sermon.

What happened? Dunno. I don't doubt the sincerity of either man, but the performance was kind of wacky and ruined the whole service for everyone.
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