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[n david]

Originally Posted by Dichotomy Girl

Actually, no, I meant to post that verse, that was actually the main verse I wanted! Because I wanted to point out that Jesus is about compassion and mercy.

I should have checked before the post, but I corrected my post. Sorry. I didn't realize the NIV left that part off. Yet another reason to avoid that version.

I agree, Jesus IS about compassion and mercy, but He's also clear about sin and the need for repentance. Like the woman in adultery. He didn't ask her, or make it a question. No, it was a command: "Go, and sin no more."

[n david]

Originally Posted by Dichotomy Girl

But I want to apologize, because I think in my zeal, I came off as judgmental and harsh, and that wasn't my intention. I just feel such a burden for those that feel that the church, and Christians, and God have rejected and abandoned them.

I don't believe you were harsh or judgmental. I didn't think you understood what I was saying, because you kept taking the message off into how we should act. I completely agree we should treat people right and try to show God's love. I've worked with a lot of gay men and women. We've gotten along fine. They don't scare me. I often took lunch breaks with a gay man and several of us even went to live jazz in the park during our lunches. He knew my beliefs about his lifestyle, which he asked about once and that was the end of the discussion for both of us. I didn't preach at him and tell him to repent or he was a sinner. But back then, in 2000-2002, I didn't shy away from answering his questions.

Not sure if I would be so honest with someone at work today though. I would likely decline to answer the question. Believe it or not....two things I avoid at work are politics and religion.

However, I want the freedom to be able to express my personal and religious beliefs without it jeopardizing my job. And these recent events show we are rapidly going to where you can't say anything against gay marriage, anywhere.

[Reader]

Nicely spoken, David. And the man going with you on lunch breaks even after you shared your beliefs is a testament to your character. You must have shared in a loving manner or that would not have transpired. That is how it should be.

[n david]

Originally Posted by Reader

Nicely spoken, David. And the man going with you on lunch breaks even after you sharied your beliefs is a testament to your character. You must have shared in a loving manner or that would not have transpired. That is how it should be.

I can be abrasive on here at times, but I don't lack compassion or love. He was a great coworker.

[n david]

Originally Posted by n david

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Wow...just looked on my pc and saw the mess of a quote I posted via the forum app.

Does anyone know why this happens when I copy/paste quotes using the app. It never happens on the pc, just when I'm using the mobile app.

Sorry folks, that's a mess to try and read.

[FlamingZword]

Originally Posted by n david

I should have checked before the post, but I corrected my post. Sorry. I didn't realize the NIV left that part off. Yet another reason to avoid that version.

Actually I disagree, that is a great reason to read and support that version.

There were interpolations that were done to some of the early versions, most of them were "innocent" additions in an attempt to clarify a situation.
that part about sinning no more was not in the original, but was some later comment done by some "pious" person that eventually got inserted in the actual text.
I have seen many people write in their bibles, Now days no one would confuse some personal note with the actual text, because the original text is printed, but back then all the text was handwritten, so it would not be hard for a simple comment to be confused for the actual text.

[n david]

Originally Posted by FlamingZword

Actually I disagree, that is a great reason to read and support that version.

I don't want to hijack the thread, but NIV is a horrible version. One of the most glaring errors of the NIV is Daniel 3:5, where it says the fourth man "looks like a son of the gods," instead of the "Son of God."

Again, I don't want to get off subject, but the NIV is terrible.

[FlamingZword]

Originally Posted by n david

I don't want to hijack the thread, but NIV is a horrible version. One of the most glaring errors of the NIV is Daniel 3:5, where it says the fourth man "looks like a son of the gods," instead of the "Son of God."

Again, I don't want to get off subject, but the NIV is terrible.

The one saying that was a pagan king, so it would actually be more correct for him to say a son of the gods, instead of the Son of God, since he was a polytheistic monarch who believe in many Gods.
"The Son of God" actually sounds too monotheistic to have come from the lips of a pagan king.

I really do not think that is a glaring error, but a more correct wording for a pagan king.

[LadyRev]

Originally Posted by Fionn mac Cumh

The work place is the work place. The constitution protects you from govt action against you. Why is that so hard to comprehend?

A co-worker touching your behind is sexual harassment. Sue your employer if they tolerate that.

An employer cant discriminate in their hiring practices. That includes sex,age,religion,sexual preference.

Its not rocket science.

What do you want? The right to walk around and condemn people to hell? Not everyone is christian.

Give me a break.

I'm not talking about walking around condemning people to hell.

But whats good for the goose should be good for the gander and thats not happening.

No, everyone is not christian. And everyone is not into satanism, new age, humanism, catholicism, scientology or a number of other "religions" yet they are tolerated in the work place. Its only the "christians" that are singled out and discriminated against. And YES the above things I named are "religions" by the very definition of the word.

The constitution protects against more than just unfair hiring practices.

Are you saying that the freedom of religion stops at the door of the work place? If so, once again, what about the "religions" I named above that are free to say whatever they want to say at work? Often things I would rather not hear?

Harrassment isn't just "sexual" or physical. It can take on other forms. Including the deliberate use of language or open discussion of offensive topics in the work place. If saying Merry Christmas isn't allowed because it might "offend" someone, what about this other junk thats allowed?

I might add that I work for a very large company that boasts about its "diversity" of employees and how they don't allow discrimination or harrassment in the work place.

[LadyRev]

Originally Posted by Light

Are you paid for working? If so your paid to work not talk.

Are you saying that all paid workers, christian and non-christian alike, should never speak unless its work related???

Wow....