Poll: Church And Streaming Video

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Esaias

Go into the highways and COMPEL them to come in?

What I'm saying is it takes more than just being yourself to see conversions and help people begin to coalesce as a community of believers. It takes intention. There needs to be some rhyme to the rhythm, some goals, some INTENTIONAL outreach. Otherwise, maybe you should be praying for the Lord to send someone to your area to begin a work?

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Esaias

So does this mean you aren't at all interested in starting a work planting an apostolic assembly in your area? If there are no genuinely apostolic churches in your area, and you feel burdened about that fact, then why in the world would you NOT be starting a work to build an apostolic, true doctrine church there?

Mike, it isn't predicated on if, what, or when. You have for the past two days beat the tin drum. How everyone else except someone 500 miles away, have what you deem as truth. Therefore what are you doing for others in your area? If you can't get some for 500 miles, aren't willing to pick up and move. I think whatever you got to do you need to do it. Then start bringing in the sheaves. You got a woman from Fort Lauderdale to schlep all the way to your house to get baptized in Yahshua name. Dude, that is no easy feat. That was over ten years ago. You would be stacked pancake high if you kept up the momentum. You would now be in a church which would be your custom made vision.

[Michael The Disciple]

Bump.

New perspectives?

[Nicodemus1968]

Originally Posted by n david

I think it's pretty clear what "assembling of ourselves together" means.

It doesn't mean I can turn on FB live or Youtube or GodTV to watch ihop and call it good.

I agree with nDavid. I wonder if nDavid agrees with nDavid?

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by n david

I think it's pretty clear what "assembling of ourselves together" means.

It doesn't mean I can turn on FB live or Youtube or GodTV to watch ihop and call it good.

Exactly!

[Michael The Disciple]

If the state shuts your Church building meeting down THEN is it ok to watch the live stream? If not what next?

[james34]

I told my wife when Carona virus first hit, that when it got to America churches would be put in an uncomfortable position. They would either refrain from internet services, while the flock looks for food elsewhere, or feel pressed to move away from their conviction. I know (most of our fellowship) A/O that still only use internet to look up something. They dont use social media, or partake in forums, no interaction strictly for searching purposes only. They have for several years now quietly suggested that those with cold symptoms stay home. So I will be surprised if they have services, there hasnt been any forced closings that I know of in Arkansas and Tn.
I would advocate that the preaching be done live stream, but I dont think this can be a replacement for a physical gathering. When I say temporary I think 3 or 4 weeks would be an extreme limit.
Can you imagine new comers to the faith, only knowing the church through live stream services. This is the very virtual relationships the tech age has brought to our chidren , that we feel so burdened to warn them about....its unnatural. Can you imagine how impersonal it would be for someone with a special need to communicate that need through a private msg, during the livestream. Some things are better handled in the present tense(laying on of hands). Also there is water baptism...then there is the rural problem with dependable internet connection, or slow internet, or affordability of some to have internet....I guess we could make it a "right"(internet access that is) gov. funded for the welfare class... but then couldnt the government outlaw certain content...
There may be times where internet can be a help, but never an alternative.
The shut in- what did the shutin do during the days of Jesus?

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by james34

I told my wife when Carona virus first hit, that when it got to America churches would be put in an uncomfortable position. They would either refrain from internet services, while the flock looks for food elsewhere, or feel pressed to move away from their conviction. I know (most of our fellowship) A/O that still only use internet to look up something. They dont use social media, or partake in forums, no interaction strictly for searching purposes only. They have for several years now quietly suggested that those with cold symptoms stay home. So I will be surprised if they have services, there hasnt been any forced closings that I know of in Arkansas and Tn. I would advocate that the preaching be done live stream, but I dont think this can be a replacement for a physical gathering. When I say temporary I think 3 or 4 weeks would be an extreme limit.
Can you imagine new comers to the faith, only knowing the church through live stream services. This is the very virtual relationships the tech age has brought to our chidren , that we feel so burdened to warn them about....its unnatural. Can you imagine how impersonal it would be for someone with a special need to communicate that need through a private msg, during the livestream. Some things are better handled in the present tense(laying on of hands).Also there is water baptism...then there is the rural problem with dependable internet connection, or slow internet, or affordability of some to have intern..I guess we could make it a "right"(internet access that is) gov. funded for the welfare class... but then couldnt the government outlaw certain content... There may be times where internet can be a help, but never an alternative.
The shut in- what did the shutin do during the days of Jesus?

I would advocate that the preaching be done live stream, but I dont think this can be a replacement for a physical gathering. When I say temporary I think 3 or 4 weeks would be an extreme limit.

Sure agreed if things were just as we would like. What happens if the extend their orders? What if they ban Church gatherings? Then IMO it would be Gods blessing to be able to still be connected.

Can you imagine new comers to the faith, only knowing the church through live stream services. This is the very virtual relationships the tech age has brought to our chidren , that we feel so burdened to warn them about....its unnatural. Can you imagine how impersonal it would be for someone with a special need to communicate that need through a private msg, during the livestream.

I can only speak from my experience but I have talked with people since I came to the Apostolic Churches who say the same. One can attend Church week after week and never have real fellowship. A handshake with a "praise the Lord" coming in and going out doesnt really qualify.

I know there are exceptions Im sure. And hopefully there is growth in that area that Im not aware of. It would certainly be more Gods will to be there together than online IF we were really DOING fellowship.

Also there is water baptism...then there is the rural problem with dependable internet connection, or slow internet, or affordability of some to have intern..

Baptism is a problem. And yet I know of Apostolic Church where people are told to come and be baptized next week. Besides that nothing in the Bible says people need come to a Church building for baptism. Disciples in the Church should be ready to travel to baptize people.

As for internet affordability if someone really is serious about being a part maybe the Church can help out?

There may be times where internet can be a help, but never an alternative.

Well if all things were ideal I agree 100%. If local Churches taught enough truth to make it worthwhile and they were actually open to go to that is Gods will. But as it stands now on both counts I believe in the situation we are in it is a great alternative. Much better than no contact.

[diakonos]

Originally Posted by Esaias

So does this mean you aren't at all interested in starting a work planting an apostolic assembly in your area? If there are no genuinely apostolic churches in your area, and you feel burdened about that fact, then why in the world would you NOT be starting a work to build an apostolic, true doctrine church there?

This

[james34]

With free speech being targeted by the media giants, facebook,twitter,youtube,etc...and then the successful use of govermental powers to ban church services, what gives us confidence that once enough time has passed, that they wont begin to restrict free speech on the internet?, such as (preaching the truth) against sin? It is a slippery slope to give up the right to assemble(as we are driven from the gathering places by the Government) , citing contentment to go live stream as a viable God-sanctioned alternative. But we must remember that control of the internet (as far as free speech is concerned)was already established by the media giants, in agreement with the government, and runs according to the ideology of the liberal left...I guarantee there will not be much preaching of the truth in that atmosphere for very long. So we use private apps and live streams where we must be invited or be a member to join in, which leaves me wondering how new converts would find the church?
Before Christ returns his church will be accustomed to living out the gospel in an atmosphere where it is rejected, hated, and illegal. So we have to be willing to go against our government in order to follow christ...hmmm, this starting to sound like the early church. We might want to get used to standing by faith, lest we compromise so much that we can only justify compromising, and thus standing becomes a position for which there is no Christ-like justification. Likely at this point we would find that we dont have enough faith to stand.