Sex Scenes - Page 53

Baron1710 · #**521** 07-31-2010, 11:41 AM

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Eph.5:21
Submitting yourselves one to another in the fear of God.

See now there is a smart lady.

MissBrattified · #**522** 07-31-2010, 01:32 PM

I think some people find the statement "mutual submission" to be a stumbling block, because they imagine women bossing their husbands around and him saying weakly, with his shoulders slumped and head down, "Yes ma'am, whatever you wish, ma'am." However, in a marriage, if both man and wife serve one another in love, that is the basic idea of "mutual submission."

That said: If I snap my fingers at my husband and tell him to get his butt in gear, he won't do anything at all for me. Be ye kind one to another.

I also believe that the husband should be respected as the authority in the home, but that doesn't mean he walks around as the king, beating his chest, and expecting subservience from his minions. It means he carries the most responsibility in the home, and is responsible for everything that goes on there. The husband is responsible to provide for and protect the home and family, as well as love those in his family unconditionally. Ideally, his wife will defer to his authority whenever necessary, but he doesn't force anything on his wife.

It's not a job for pansies or narcissists.

Baron1710 · #**523** 07-31-2010, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by MissBrattified

I think some people find the statement "mutual submission" to be a stumbling block, because they imagine women bossing their husbands around and him saying weakly, with his shoulders slumped and head down, "Yes ma'am, whatever you wish, ma'am." However, in a marriage, if both man and wife serve one another in love, that is the basic idea of "mutual submission."

That said: If I snap my fingers at my husband and tell him to get his butt in gear, he won't do anything at all for me. Be ye kind one to another.

I also believe that the husband should be respected as the authority in the home, but that doesn't mean he walks around as the king, beating his chest, and expecting subservience from his minions. It means he carries the most responsibility in the home, and is responsible for everything that goes on there. The husband is responsible to provide for and protect the home and family, as well as love those in his family unconditionally. Ideally, his wife will defer to his authority whenever necessary, but he doesn't force anything on his wife.

It's not a job for pansies or narcissists.

The wife gives authority over her body to her husband, and the husband gives authority over his body to his wife.
I Cor. 7:4

This verse is a great example of mutual submission.

Hoovie · #**524** 07-31-2010, 01:44 PM

The only thing I get real demanding about with Kristin is baking fresh peach pies...

No one is perfect folks. Confess your faults one to another...

MissBrattified · #**525** 07-31-2010, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Baron1710

The wife gives authority over her body to her husband, and the husband gives authority over his body to his wife.
I Cor. 7:4

This verse is a great example of mutual submission.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're still not going to let your wife boss you around.

Socialite · #**526** 07-31-2010, 03:34 PM

Someone listed scrips earlier, I thought I'd add this one to consider for the thread:

But among you there must not be even a hint of sexual immorality, or of any kind of impurity, or of greed, because these are improper for God's holy people.

Baron1710 · #**527** 07-31-2010, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by MissBrattified

Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're still not going to let your wife boss you around.

Nope, I have a bit of a rebellious streak. However, I do recognize that things are a lot smoother if we are busy taking care of each other.

Also I think my wife would tell you that I do not lord over our house. After almost 18 years we work pretty well together.

*AQuietPlace* · #**528** 07-31-2010, 03:55 PM

Most women don't care for being "bossed around" either. There is a way to lead that involves mutual respect. A secure man doesn't feel the need to prove his authority by chest thumping and barking orders.

Pressing-On · #**529** 07-31-2010, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Baron1710

mutual submission.

Mutual submission, in our vernacular, is simply defined, IMO, as "give and take".

Socialite · #**530** 07-31-2010, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Mutual submission, in our vernacular, is simply defined, IMO, as "give and take".

Mutual submission -- could it mean a submission in ways that one should?

Are all cultural roles for men and women biblical roles?

Are women-led households a biblical model for the home?

Is it possible to lead without a sense of hierarchy?

Submission to one another was not in a marital sense (Eph 5:21), but was rather in a communal sense. However, the idea would make sense in a marital relationship as well if we wanted to make that case. But if our marriages reflect Christ, does Christ's love serve as a submission model for us or a serving model --- and is there a difference? Christ was submitted to God, serving the church. This seems to fit the 1 Cor 11:3 model.

Is is at all possible to avoid the cultural stamp of disapproval for a biblical family model?