Re: Today, I Saw One of the Most Horrifying Things
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Originally Posted by freeatlast
Been down the road of hurt a couple times.
I've never held ill will towards any offenders.
I've seen things happen and yet even today I see things clouding up in the lives of the offenders.
I can not in my wildest of dreams think that God would be avenging my adversaries.
It helps me to know that those who have done harm to me and my family acted in ignorance.
I've known some mighty ingnorant people in my 37 years a sa Christian.
Pastor Poster...I do believe God is definetly in your corner.
But how can you say such a thing? I understand that we all want the mercy and grace of God to cover the earth, but doesn't His mercy involve His judgement?
If God never avenged the adversaries of the righteous, we would be left with the impression that he is (a) unjust, and (b) uninvolved.
Look, it's not that I am praying fire down on people's heads here. I often say these words "thank God we don't always get what we deserve.'
But....I do believe there are somethings we can do that God responds to very quickly. Chiefly, intentionally harming His children.
Re: Today, I Saw One of the Most Horrifying Things
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Originally Posted by Pastor Poster
But how can you say such a thing? I understand that we all want the mercy and grace of God to cover the earth, but doesn't His mercy involve His judgement?
If God never avenged the adversaries of the righteous, we would be left with the impression that he is (a) unjust, and (b) uninvolved.
Look, it's not that I am praying fire down on people's heads here. I often say these words "thank God we don't always get what we deserve.'
But....I do believe there are somethings we can do that God responds to very quickly. Chiefly, intentionally harming His children.
I definitely do believe that God judges. It's just that I'm not going to be the one who threatens that or wreaks it on people.
"Vengeance is mine. I will repay" is what God says. That responsibility is His. We have other responsibilities given to us in Scripture like forgiving, turning the other cheek, repaying evil with good just to name a few .......and if we do what God has told us to do then we'll reap the benefits of that.
David wouldn't touch Saul in spite of Saul's harassment, jealousy, treachery and evil acts. God however, did take care of Saul in time.
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Re: Today, I Saw One of the Most Horrifying Things
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Originally Posted by Pastor Poster
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Is it wrong to pray for God's vengeance against wicked enemies?
Yes. On the cross Jesus didn't ask God to punish his persecutors. He's our example. It's no longer eye for an eye.
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Re: Today, I Saw One of the Most Horrifying Things
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Originally Posted by "GL"
Just a quick thought...
Job had to pray for his accusers prior to him receiving the double portion.
Over the years, I've had to learn to genuinely pray for my enemies. I've prayed mercy over them and told the Lord that I would not hold them accountable for their sins against me - neither should He. I asked that He bring them to a place of repentance and wipe their slate clean. It's been a protection for my spirit and healing for my heart.
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Originally Posted by Ferd
PP, I commend you. It is truly a frightening thing to see the hand of God move.
The reason, I know to pray for the Mercy of God in the lives of those who do wrong, is because I know they will face His Judgement.
What an aweful thing.
True and wise words.
One of the hardest things do do is to pray for our enemies.
And it can be tough sometimes too, to make sure we don't gloat when we see our enemies fall.
Even when I dont always feel like praying for my enemies or adversaries, I make myself do it, and when I'm done I feel better for it.
Besides, the Bible says blessed are the merciful, for they shall obtain mercy.
And the fact is, all of us are going to need mercy someday.
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