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Old 10-05-2011, 04:24 PM
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wow JT, there is a lot of adding to.

Nowhere is it suggested that the "repent" part was a recap of what had already taken place.

Further by doing so, you suggest that repenance providing salvation occurs seperately from baptism unto remission.... that is a bit of a theological problem you have there.
I was merely stating how grammar plays a part in how I read that verse. Like I have said all along that I am a saved at repentance person. I explained it how I see/read it.
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Old 10-05-2011, 04:32 PM
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Ummm... if you want to claim credit... feel free.

I can glory only in Christ and what He's done for me.
Galatians 2:21
I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.
And you say God is just.
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Old 10-05-2011, 04:36 PM
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Even on my best days... all I deserve is Hell.
Really? Do you actually believe that is true?
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I was merely stating how grammar plays a part in how I read that verse. Like I have said all along that I am a saved at repentance person. I explained it how I see/read it.
And I am just saying your explination leaves a lot more holes than it fills....
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And I am just saying your explination leaves a lot more holes than it fills....
I think it has less holes that the OP's version.
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Old 10-05-2011, 09:15 PM
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I think it has less holes that the OP's version.
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Old 10-05-2011, 09:45 PM
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So... I am making this thread to simply make this statement.

Peters response to the question of what one must do (to be saved) was this.

1. Repent
2. Be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of your sins

That is his response to the question of what one must do. The rest of the verse is his telling of what God promises to do once you do what Peter had instructed.

There is more to say but I'll leave it at that for right now.
Actually, that very question, word for word, is asked in Acts. It's not Acts 2:38 though and you don't have to add words to the question.

Act 16:30 And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved?

Now, the response to the question....

Act 16:31 And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.
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Old 10-05-2011, 09:46 PM
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Old 10-05-2011, 10:54 PM
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Ha. No he is a Just GOD. If he does not give everyone a chance, then he is not JUST.

You preach and UNJUST GOD.
Have to agree with Aquila on THIS point. God is not unjust if he does not draw everyone.

Paul explains that.

9:11 (For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth
9:12 It was said unto her, The elder shall serve the younger.
9:13 As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.
9:14 What shall we say then? Is there unrighteousness with God? God forbid.
9:15 For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion. Rom. 9:11-15

Verse 11 portrays grace as "unmerited favor". Jacob was chosen for no good he had done. Simply because God willed it so. He asks the question everyone today asks? Since God does this is he unrighteous? By this the implication is that God would not be just if he did not give everyone the same chance.

Read VERY carefully Pauls answer in verse 15. God does NOT promise everyone a chance to be saved. He says he will have mercy and compassion on whom he will.

His adversaries declare this unfair to mankind.

How does Paul answer them?

9:19 Thou wilt say then unto me, Why doth he yet find fault? For who hath resisted his will?9:20 Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus?
9:21 Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?

Paul answers by asking the question is it not fair to the potter to make vessels as he chooses? It would not be fair to the CREATOR if he could not. Paul is more concerned about whats just to the POTTER than he is the clay. Whats fair to God more than whats fair to men.

The clay or thing created cannot say anything to its maker.

I dont understand whats hard to understand about how Paul answers the charge that God is unjust. He lays it out pretty clear.

So on the fact of predestination Aquila is correct.

On the point of Acts 2:38 he disagrees with Peter and the Apostles.

Regeneration is only written one time in context of salvation and refers to water baptism in Titus 3:5

3:5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;
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Really? Do you actually believe that is true?
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