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Old 07-16-2008, 09:22 AM
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It is wrong to Ordain new Christians as Ministers

When giving the qualifications to be ordained for ministry.. ;Paul forbids the Ordination of New converts.. those who have only been saved for a few years are forbidden from preaching... I had no idea until I read this scripture

I Tim 3:6 - Not a novice, lest being lifted up with pride he fall into the condemnation of the devil.

The meaning of NOVICE in its original - NEOPHUTOS - 1) newly planted

a) a new convert, neophyte (one who has recently become a Christian)

It should be several years after conversion before anyone is allowed to approach the pulpit according to Pauls teachings.
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Old 07-16-2008, 09:41 AM
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When giving the qualifications to be ordained for ministry.. ;Paul forbids the Ordination of New converts.. those who have only been saved for a few years are forbidden from preaching... I had no idea until I read this scripture

I Tim 3:6 - Not a novice, lest being lifted up with pride he fall into the condemnation of the devil.

The meaning of NOVICE in its original - NEOPHUTOS - 1) newly planted

a) a new convert, neophyte (one who has recently become a Christian)

It should be several years after conversion before anyone is allowed to approach the pulpit according to Pauls teachings.
Certainly they shouldn't be a novice for sure.
Everybody is at different levels though, I have a friend who came to the Lord about 3 years after me & he is already Pastoring.
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Old 07-16-2008, 12:19 PM
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Re: It is wrong to Ordain new Christians as Minist

Ordained by God or by man-made organizations?
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Old 07-16-2008, 12:23 PM
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Re: It is wrong to Ordain new Christians as Minist

not organizations but definitly by man.... Paul told Timothy to ordain elders in every city.. God didnt ordain those men.. MAN DID... because no one can not be in authority thats not under authority....

Ordination must take place by man,,. its how it happened in the NT and it must happen the same way now..
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Old 07-16-2008, 12:25 PM
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Re: It is wrong to Ordain new Christians as Minist

But at some point, did not a group of men decide that they were qualified to ordain others (or each other) without being "ordained" themselves?
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Old 07-16-2008, 12:30 PM
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Re: It is wrong to Ordain new Christians as Minist

Sorry Brad.. not sure what you are referencing
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Old 07-16-2008, 12:37 PM
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Re: It is wrong to Ordain new Christians as Minist

I guess just that no one is really ordained unless they can show a hierachical chain of ordinations all the way back to Jesus.
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Old 07-16-2008, 12:59 PM
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Re: It is wrong to Ordain new Christians as Minist

I think if someone is ordained too soon it can and usually does destroy them!
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Old 07-16-2008, 01:11 PM
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I think if someone is ordained too soon it can and usually does destroy them!
I know this personally to be a fact.......

I believe someone should be a believer for years before they are handed the pulpit.. there is no room for novices in Gods Kingdom as far as PREACHING

I was ordained at 14 years old... and OH HOW I WISH I could do it over again........ I had no business preaching the gospel at that age.... I was a NOVICE and just like scriptures tell us... PRIDE was not far behind... and then a fall came.........

We should be very careful who we ordain into ministry
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Old 07-16-2008, 03:34 PM
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Re: It is wrong to Ordain new Christians as Minist

Every person is different. Some people may be ready for pulpit ministry in less time than others. Jesus entire ministry was only 3 1/2 years long. In that time frame he won many converts, trained them to preach, and had them out preaching.
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