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Old 10-26-2010, 03:11 PM
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Is space 2d instead of 3d?

I keep reading about this in theoretical science journals based on what they are discovering. Essentially our 3d universe is a 2d construct with information written on it and the information written on the "edges" of the space time pixels or bubbles gives the appearance of 3 dimensions.

http://www.csmonitor.com/Science/Coo...could-find-out.

Its hard to follow but trippy.
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Old 10-26-2010, 03:14 PM
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Re: Is space 2d instead of 3d?

During the hunt for the predicted ripples in space-time — known as gravitational waves — physicists stumbled across a rather puzzling phenomenon. Last year, I reported about the findings of scientists using the GEO600 experiment in Germany. Although the hi-tech piece of kit hadn’t turned up evidence for the gravitational waves it was seeking, it did turn up a lot of noise.

Before we can understand what this “noise” is, we need to understand how equipment designed to look for the space-time ripples caused by collisions between black holes and supernova explosions.

Gravitational wave detectors are incredibly sensitive to the tiniest change in distance. For example, the GEO600 experiment can detect a fluctuation of an atomic radius over a distance from the Earth to the Sun. This is achieved by firing a laser down a 600 meter long tube where it is split, reflected and directed into an interferometer. The interferometer can detect the tiny phase shifts in the two beams of light predicted to occur should a gravitational wave pass through our local volume of space. This wave is theorized to slightly change the distance between physical objects. Should GEO600 detect a phase change, it could be indicative of a slight change in distance, thus the passage of a gravitational wave.

While looking out for a gravitational wave signal, scientists at GEO600 noticed something bizarre. There was inexplicable static in the results they were gathering. After canceling out all artificial sources of the noise, they called in the help of Fermilab’s Craig Hogan to see if his expertise of the quantum world help shed light on this anomalous noise. His response was as baffling as it was mind-blowing. “It looks like GEO600 is being buffeted by the microscopic quantum convulsions of space-time,” Hogan said.

Come again?

The signal being detected by GEO600 isn’t a noise source that’s been overlooked, Hogan believes GEO600 is seeing quantum fluctuations in the fabric of space-time itself. This is where things start to get a little freaky.

According to Einstein’s view on the universe, space-time should be smooth and continuous. However, this view may need to be modified as space-time may be composed of quantum “points” if Hogan’s theory is correct. At its finest scale, we should be able to probe down the “Planck length” which measures 10-35 meters. But the GEO600 experiment detected noise at scales of less than 10-15 meters.

As it turns out, Hogan thinks that noise at these scales are caused by a holographic projection from the horizon of our universe. A good analogy is to think about how an image becomes more and more blurry or pixelated the more you zoom in on it. The projection starts off at Planck scale lengths at the Universe’s event horizon, but its projection becomes blurry in our local space-time. This hypothesis comes out of black hole research where the information that falls into a black hole is “encoded” in the black hole’s event horizon. For the holographic universe to hold true, information must be encoded in the outermost reaches of the Universe and it is projected into our 3 dimensional world.

But how can this hypothesis be tested? We need to boost the resolution of a gravitational wave detector-type of kit. Enter the “Holometer.”

Currently under construction in Fermilab, the Holometer (meaning holographic interferometer) will delve deep into this quantum realm at smaller scales than the GEO600 experiment. If Hogan’s idea is correct, the Holometer should detect this quantum noise in the fabric of space-time, throwing our whole perception of the Universe into a spin.
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Re: Is space 2d instead of 3d?

Sounds interesting. I just watched a special dealing with the problem of information being "lost" in a black hole and how the problem is overcome with the holographic concept of everything falling in being "copied" at the event horizon in a near perfect 2D state. In fact, it was "Through the Wormhole" which does a good job of taking complex issues and making them understandable to lay people. Sometimes it is almost too simplistic.
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Re: Is space 2d instead of 3d?

The link is:

http://www.csmonitor.com/Science/Coo...ould-find-out.

Including the period at the end.
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Sounds interesting. I just watched a special dealing with the problem of information being "lost" in a black hole and how the problem is overcome with the holographic concept of everything falling in being "copied" at the event horizon in a near perfect 2D state. In fact, it was "Through the Wormhole" which does a good job of taking complex issues and making them understandable to lay people. Sometimes it is almost too simplistic.
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