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Old 10-01-2012, 07:35 PM
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Dealing with Demons in Grace

Do's and Don'ts

There are do's and don'ts for handling demon attacks.
Don't be afraid. Those who can be frightened have already lost.
Don't react. Those who react with self-righteousness or anger have already lost.
Resist. Don't submit to the demon's demands. Don't negotiate.
Don't attack. Demon warfare must be defensive. "The battle is the LORD's!"
Don't believe the demon's lies.
Don't take the bait.
Don't talk to the demon, except in some rare cases. Don't order him around. Don't lecture him.
Don't fall under the demon's spell. Wiggle or squirm to break the demon's power.
Do turn to God immediately.
Do reflect on the scene in light of God's Sovereign Design.
Recall the promises of scripture.
Don't assume there is only one demon involved. There may be many hidden behind the first one.
Don't feed the demon's ego. He wants attention. Taking pictures or talking about him only emboldens him.
From a practical standpoint, turning on a night light will weaken the demon so that he is harmless and it will be possible to get some sleep. Demons hate the light, even though some do attack in daylight.
The procedure for handling a demon attack is not designed to remove the demon. Following the procedure precisely will not necessarily remove the demon. The procedure is the Grace approach for dealing with the problem. The demon is not the problem. The demon is punishment for the weak person. Withstanding the demon attack and learning from it will enable the Christian to mature and overcome the problem. This is not a short term fix, but a long-term solution.

Dream Attacks...

http://www.biblenews1.com/sin/demons.htm

hmm, this guy seems to refute "a house divided"
above this, I have a query in about that, but-thoughts?
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Old 10-01-2012, 07:43 PM
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Re: Dealing with Demons in Grace

Don't attack?

Sounds like the guy has never really worked in deliverance!

When a spirit manifests it is attack time.
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Old 10-01-2012, 08:12 PM
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Re: Dealing with Demons in Grace

Well, he doesn't say "don't act."
I've actually never had any of these
demonic images, at least not since pretty young.
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Old 10-01-2012, 08:50 PM
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Re: Dealing with Demons in Grace

What you copied and pasted is false teaching.
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Old 10-01-2012, 09:09 PM
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ha I love the inferred accusation in
"copy/paste."

I admit that this is not my favorite work of his,
but why do you say this?
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Old 10-01-2012, 10:31 PM
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Check your Bible how to deal with these issues.
It's in there.
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Re: Dealing with Demons in Grace

The writer says:

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The pentecostal apostates who claim to have the power to cast out demons today are not only confused. They are under Satan's power themselves. They are not Grace oriented. The power to cast out demons was a temporary gift that was given to some disciples and apostles of Christ before the completion of the canon of scripture. Those who plead the blood are sadly confused. There is no power in the literal blood of Christ. He did not bleed to death on the Cross. The "Blood of Christ" is a metaphor for His substitutionary spiritual death for the sins of the world. Prayer will not work. It didn't work for Paul. The "anointing with oil" recommended by James (James 5:14) was part of a Jewish exorcism procedure used during the precanon period. It is no longer applicable in the Church Age.
He obviously rejects Christs teaching in Mark 16 that casting out demons is a sign that follows believers. And he does away with James teaching about healing as if an apostles word means nothing.

He is clearly one of the so called "grace" teachers who feel the book of Acts is NOT relevant to the New Testament Church.

Its clear he is inventing whole portions of doctrine. He spends about 20 times more words than the Bible does on the subject so its obvious hes making a bunch of it up, probably inspired by satan.
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Re: Dealing with Demons in Grace

"Wiggle or squirm to break the demon's power."

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Old 10-02-2012, 07:57 AM
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Re: Dealing with Demons in Grace

Ya I thought that was weird, too-
-but I've read it from other authors,
the point being to show any kind of
resistance, it like focuses your mind there,
rather than considering the spirit in any way.

MTD, I've never heard of a "Grace" preacher, specifically?
I'll admit that this is prolly my least favorite of his;
but I've read others who say the same thing.
I'm shooting him your comments, along with my
objections about demons casting out demons,
a house divided--we'll see.

Frankly, he has been very humble in our communications,
and I will look for any change there--don't really even care
so much about his actual replies, although I'll prolly never
believe exactly like this.

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Old 10-02-2012, 07:58 AM
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Re: Dealing with Demons in Grace

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"Wiggle or squirm to break the demon's power."

You caught that, too? Good grief.
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