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06-04-2013, 08:35 AM
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The New Church (or Swedenborgianism)
Ok, so I sometimes take these crazy tangents in Wikipedia. I was on facebook, and someone had posted an rare video of Helen Keller, so I went to look something up about her, and of the many things I read, I heard that she was somewhat of a proponent of Emanuel Swedenborg, which lead me to something called the New Church Movement. I had barely learned anything of it, but I found this paragraph: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Church
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Originally Posted by wikipedia
Membership in the New Church has always been small, and the different organizations have been heavily involved in publishing activities. In terms of doctrine, there is a striking similarity between the New Church and the Oneness Pentecostalism movement of the 20th century, which developed quite independently of the writings of Swedenborg. Although the movement is completely separate, some members make some acknowledgement of Emanuel Swedenborg, who preceded the foundation of their church by over 150 years.
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I haven't read enough to know why some might find it similar, but thought it might make an interesting discussion. Anyone heard of this?
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06-04-2013, 08:59 AM
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Re: The New Church (or Swedenborgianism)
Emanuel Swedenborg?
Just like an inkblot test, the first thing to come to my mind is. . . . . .
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06-04-2013, 09:02 AM
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Re: The New Church (or Swedenborgianism)
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Emanuel Swedenborg?
Just like an inkblot test, the first thing to come to my mind is. . . . . .
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Well, some of the preaching does sound like that to me! 
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06-04-2013, 12:01 PM
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06-04-2013, 12:04 PM
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Re: The New Church (or Swedenborgianism)
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I know right? It amazes me how many different beliefs, doctrines and philosophies there have been over the years, and how many we similar, even though not directly influenced by the other.
I guess the Bible was right (don't quote me on that!) there really is nothing new under the sun 
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06-04-2013, 01:45 PM
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Re: The New Church (or Swedenborgianism)
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Ok, so I sometimes take these crazy tangents in Wikipedia. I was on facebook, and someone had posted an rare video of Helen Keller, so I went to look something up about her, and of the many things I read, I heard that she was somewhat of a proponent of Emanuel Swedenborg, which lead me to something called the New Church Movement. I had barely learned anything of it, but I found this paragraph: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Church
I haven't read enough to know why some might find it similar, but thought it might make an interesting discussion. Anyone heard of this? |
That is misleading. Swedenborn had developed a modalistic view of the Godhead and while it can be somewhat comparable to Oneness that is where the comparison ends as far as I know
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06-04-2013, 06:01 PM
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Re: The New Church (or Swedenborgianism)
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That is misleading. Swedenborn had developed a modalistic view of the Godhead and while it can be somewhat comparable to Oneness that is where the comparison ends as far as I know
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Yeah, when I read farther, that appears to be the only similarity.
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06-05-2013, 07:21 AM
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Re: The New Church (or Swedenborgianism)
Swendenborg was a mystic and medium. His understandings were foundational to the New Age and Spiritualist paths.
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06-05-2013, 04:09 PM
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Re: The New Church (or Swedenborgianism)
Johnny Appleseed (John Chapman, )September 26, 1774 – March 11, 1845 was a local historical character here in Ohio. He traveled through Pennsylvania, West Virginia, Ohio, Indiana and Illinois planting apple trees and giving apple seeds to the settlers. I've heard that when he was in the area he attended a local Swedenborg church on Route 747 a few miles from here. I've heard a oneness minister speak of Johnny Appleseed as going through the land preaching the One God message.
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06-06-2013, 07:43 PM
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Re: The New Church (or Swedenborgianism)
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Johnny Appleseed (John Chapman, )September 26, 1774 – March 11, 1845 was a local historical character here in Ohio. He traveled through Pennsylvania, West Virginia, Ohio, Indiana and Illinois planting apple trees and giving apple seeds to the settlers. I've heard that when he was in the area he attended a local Swedenborg church on Route 747 a few miles from here. I've heard a oneness minister speak of Johnny Appleseed as going through the land preaching the One God message.
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Well, you know....
If Johnny Appleseed was Oneness, then...
Hiya been, Suh? Don' see you 'round these parts reg'lar as days past.
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