Question: Why Isn't Salvation Intuitive?

StillStanding · #1 08-30-2013, 02:40 PM

Every human is in need of salvation. Why has God made it so hard to figure it out without a diploma in theology from one of the Apostolic bible schools? It seems that there is a multitude of rules that must be followed, "t"s to be crossed and "i"s to be dotted before we are saved. No grey areas. The list is so long and demanding that the average person just gives up.

Shouldn't it be so easy so that anyone, even with a low IQ, could figure it out just by reading a few verses the bible? Shouldn't salvation be easy to comprehend and then to implement?

Shouldn't we use the Occam's Razor principal? The easiest explanation is probably the correct explanation?

Praxeas · #2 08-30-2013, 03:08 PM

It is easy and no I dont have a diploma from an Apostolic school.

Amanah · #3 08-30-2013, 03:16 PM

We are born with a fallen nature and a mind that is contrary to the word of God.

Romans 8:6-8 King James Version (KJV)
6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.

It is by the Spirit of God that we are regenerated and then taught by God to know and understand the things of God.

It's not by human reasoning.

KWSS1976 · #4 08-30-2013, 03:25 PM

This is my take on it, if you have to go through 3 or 4 or 5 steps the first time to be saved, then how come when you sin and you will cause man is not perfect, all it takes is repentence to get back right, how come repentance works after you completed the 20 step salvation method the first time. In my mind if you go throught the 20 steps the first time then after you sin,you would need to do the 20 steps over again..

Timmy · #5 08-30-2013, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas

It is easy and no I dont have a diploma from an Apostolic school.

Yes it is. All you have to do is read. In fact, you will find many ways to be saved. Here are just a few:

Acts 16:30-31 (That one is, I believe, the only place where how to get saved is specifically asked and answered. Which is to believe on the Lord Jesus Christ.)

Matthew 25. Feed the hungry, give drink to the thirsty, take in strangers, clothe the naked, and visit the sick and prisoners.

Luke 18:18-22. Sell everything and give the money to the poor, then follow Jesus. (May have been specific only to this one fellow, but there has to be something to learn from this incident. Right?)

Luke 14:33. Forsake all you have. (More of a prerequisite than a complete "how to".)

Matthew 19:29. Forsake your house or family or land. In return, you will have eternal life. (Not to mention "hundredfold" in this time-- though not sure I'd really want 400 children!

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John 15:16. Be chosen.

To name a few.

Praxeas · #6 08-30-2013, 03:59 PM

Except for the Acts verse, none of the others was about becoming saved

StillStanding · #7 08-30-2013, 08:02 PM

I hope everyone realizes I was just being silly about the bible school diploma. I actually was going to say that one needed a degree, but I realized that almost all Apostolic bible schools aren't accredited by a reputable agency.

My reason for starting this thread is because this is the question I've been asked by others not familiar with our Apostolic beliefs, rituals and standards. It's an honest question! There are a thousand "recipes" out there for salvation, and OURS is he only true recipe? Maybe the actual recipe is simple and we add ingredients to give it our own special flavor or identity.

Praxeas · #8 08-30-2013, 08:33 PM

Don't THEY also say theirs is the only true recipe?

StillStanding · #9 08-30-2013, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas

Don't THEY also say theirs is the only true recipe?

True! A thousand different recipes and each thinks its the only true recipe. There's an ingredient of truth in each recipe. My point is that maybe the real true recipe is part of the vast majority of recipes. Maybe it's mistaken for an ingredient when it's actually the recipe!

ILG · #10 08-31-2013, 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by StillStanding

Every human is in need of salvation. Why has God made it so hard to figure it out without a diploma in theology from one of the Apostolic bible schools? It seems that there is a multitude of rules that must be followed, "t"s to be crossed and "i"s to be dotted before we are saved. No grey areas. The list is so long and demanding that the average person just gives up.

Shouldn't it be so easy so that anyone, even with a low IQ, could figure it out just by reading a few verses the bible? Shouldn't salvation be easy to comprehend and then to implement?

Shouldn't we use the Occam's Razor principal? The easiest explanation is probably the correct explanation?

I think it is easy. All it takes is faith. That's it. Just follow as you are shown.