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Old 10-21-2007, 12:09 AM
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Where Is The Power of Acts Today?

There are many individuals and organizations today who put together venues advertising displays of the same "Power!!" shown in the Book of Acts, but it never happens. They just talk about such "Power!!", but cannot demonstrate it.

If such people call themselves "apostles," or "apostolic," are they accurately advertising the true Power of God, or are they falsely advertising the Power of God? Which is it?

Why cannot any of today's "apostles" do the true Works of the Holy Spirit as done in the Book of Acts?

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Old 10-21-2007, 01:26 AM
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Since you asked.

I have personally witnessed miracles happen before my eye's. I have watched as people I knew personally were healed of many issues. I have watched as someone heard after being deaf most of their life. I have watched as the blind saw. I have watched a leg grow out. I have watched as a man that was crippled from a broken back not only took the brace off he was wearing, but picked up the preacher in his excitement and took off carrying him. I was there when the skin cancer that the doctors had already confimed fell off of my grandmothers arm into her hand, and no scar was left. I was there when my wife was healed of Epilepsy, after having attacks on a weekly basis. That was 20 years ago, and she has never had one since. I was present when a man in ICU whos body had completely shut down was prayed for. The next week he was in a private room. The 3rd week he was sent home.

What is sad to me is that you simply do not believe the Word of God because you have never seen it. It is only when faith is planted in hope that a garden will grow. It is not seen at first, but simply hoped for and expected. But in time that seed of faith WILL bare its fruit.
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Old 10-21-2007, 05:27 AM
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You said the magic word, "Believing". No belief. The word says that if you believe then you will be baptized in Jesus name and you will speak in other tongues, you shall lay hands on the sick and they shall recover, you can even drink poison and it will not harm you. Oh yeah, you can cast out demons.
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Old 10-21-2007, 09:22 PM
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Miracles are happening every day. Lives are changed. Bodies, minds, and spirits are healed. Some times this is spectacular. Other times it seems to happen quietly and over a period of time.

But, miracles are happening all around us and all the time.
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Old 10-21-2007, 09:38 PM
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IME it's because of the cost. Jesus didn't ask for what's left over, or whatever you have time to give. He asks for everything, all that we are. This seems to be quite difficult for those of us with so much. We are blessed in America, but it's a costly blessing IMO.

Where is the power of Acts today? It's active, living, breathing in those who are willing to give what God asks and accept what God offers.

It's been years, and years and years. But I have seen miracles. I have experienced the power of God as described in the book of Acts. I have had a faith that right now seems impossible to ever have again. The Apostles in Acts didn't *believe* something would happen when they spoke, they *KNEW* it would. There was no other alternative, it WAS because they SAID IT WAS. God hasn't changed.

My opinion is that a good number of those organizations may be operating under a false power. Flame to the left please..I need my right hand. If you seek power, you'll find it, but you won't find God. Satan has power, it's deceptive, and it's capable of doing enough to convince those who have never seen the power of God that it's God.

Why can't today's apostles do the works of the Spirit recorded in Acts? IMO and IME, because that power is from God and God alone. The cost is high, the rewards are higher. Because we don't see it often right now, the hunger and the desperate need for that isn't there for most. The cost seems too high.

And, thus completes this day's lessons from God (or not...?). If He'd said what He's said to me today any more clearly..I'd have a flashing neon sign above my head. lol

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There are many individuals and organizations today who put together venues advertising displays of the same "Power!!" shown in the Book of Acts, but it never happens. They just talk about such "Power!!", but cannot demonstrate it.

If such people call themselves "apostles," or "apostolic," are they accurately advertising the true Power of God, or are they falsely advertising the Power of God? Which is it?

Why cannot any of today's "apostles" do the true Works of the Holy Spirit as done in the Book of Acts?

Shelli.
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Old 10-21-2007, 10:35 PM
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The supernatural power of God was visibly demonstrated through miracles, signs and wonders in the early church but the early church (including the time period recorded in Acts) also had the same problems we have today and not every prayer was answered nor were miracles present on every occasion.

Those early Christians had the same problems in the Church we do today and experienced great difficulty without divine intervention. Read the Scripture and you'll see this is true.

If we knew everything that happens supernaturally on a daily basis in the lives of believers today we'd know that the power of God is indeed still visibly demonstrated and that men and women are used to minister in the power of the Holy Ghost around the world.
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Old 10-21-2007, 10:48 PM
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There are many individuals and organizations today who put together venues advertising displays of the same "Power!!" shown in the Book of Acts, but it never happens. They just talk about such "Power!!", but cannot demonstrate it.

If such people call themselves "apostles," or "apostolic," are they accurately advertising the true Power of God, or are they falsely advertising the Power of God? Which is it?

Why cannot any of today's "apostles" do the true Works of the Holy Spirit as done in the Book of Acts?

Shelli.
From everything I have honestly read from you. It for sure is not in your church.

Nor is it in your measure of faith to see it in the year 2007 and beyond.

So if you have no faith why would anyone think you would believe anything that is shared with you.

Again I stress less emphasis on the signs and wonders you seem to be stuck on.

The true teaching of Jesus Christ the saviour was not about the demonstration of miracle's signs and wonders.

It was in the words, Thy faith hath made the whole.

"Thy sins are forgiven".

For even Lazarus that was raised from the dead, died again.

If a person is healed of blindness.... is it not for a while?

Since the blind man will still surely die?

Will not the sick that recover still die?

It is the soul Christ was most concerned with?

So Apostalic Pentecostal's preach more of the saving grace and the plan of salvation.

The idea that one is not eternally saved upon conversion.

One call fall away and still lose their soul.

The Apostalic Pentecostal teachings are not only signs and wonders as you suppose.

The saving of the soul is the ultimate goal not shadow's passing by healing folks.

The first thing you need to gather up is a measure of faith!

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Old 10-22-2007, 11:27 AM
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Miracles happen when GOD is ready and does the work at his WILL through and by them that are Influenced under him.They are not for SHOW but for edification and or to Punish.In other words they are given explicitly for the right purpose,right time and what ever else is according to GODS will.


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Old 10-22-2007, 12:12 PM
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Miracles happen when GOD is ready and does the work at his WILL through and by them that are Influenced under him.They are not for SHOW but for edification and or to Punish.In other words they are given explicitly for the right purpose,right time and what ever else is according to GODS will.


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Some of God's miracles were done for show: the plagues of Egypt.

In the NT, some miracles were done to spread fear: Ananias and Sapphira. OK, maybe that wasn't the reason for their killings, but it was the result.
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There are many individuals and organizations today who put together venues advertising displays of the same "Power!!" shown in the Book of Acts, but it never happens. They just talk about such "Power!!", but cannot demonstrate it.

If such people call themselves "apostles," or "apostolic," are they accurately advertising the true Power of God, or are they falsely advertising the Power of God? Which is it?

Why cannot any of today's "apostles" do the true Works of the Holy Spirit as done in the Book of Acts?

Shelli.
sister every time someone receives the Holy Ghost you are seeing the power of the book of Acts.I was in a service in a little country place Sunday night with friends about an hour and a half from where I live and that same awesome power of God was manifesting all over the place in that little church.
It may have only had twenty five to thirty saints but it was rocking under the power of the Holy Ghost.The church I attend is over 850 and the power of God is manifested mightily.Awesome miricles take place.
Could it be you need personal revival?
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