So, your advice is to dump meds, and buy an illegal drug and eat it? And change his diet? Are you an MD?
No, and I might be wrong here, no doubt. Smoking pot is a great way to get depressed. I'm just speaking from a similar experience at his age, although I can't confess to being as responsible then. I have to stand by the dump the meds thing, as I'm convinced that this is just another way to a chemical lobotomy. Most or all of them have fluoride as a chief component, which is just a lobotomy, discovered by nazis. it's on google, no secret.
And diet changed my life; my depressions now last minutes or hours, max.
Another thing, although a bit gross, is how often are you stooling? 5 times a day for me, crucial for good mental health. At his age, I went thru a period of like 2 a week. Obv I'm just throwing things out there, ok, but I got dad off Coumadin, insulin, lots of other yack, that your Dr prescribes by commission. They are not your friends; you are a guinea pig to them. They cannot become an MD without being completely invested in allopathy. They might still care at some level, some of them,
but are you going to trust that? I wouldn't let an allopathic MD watch my dog.
Where you anti church people miss the point is that you want to throw out the baby with the bath water.
You may have had bad experiences at your church but that does not mean there are not good churches out there that are fulfilling their role in bringing people to Christ and discipling them.
A person in crisis like this desperately needs the love and prayers of a church family and the counsel of a godly man or men.
You guys want him to cut ties, be on his own, and just take some more drugs. Good grief. This is the first time in a long time I have just outright wanted to rebuke people on this forum.
Tell me this batman. How many of you brilliant people who "take a break" from church ever go back? How many ever search and find one to plug in to?
The answer is pretty much zero and you know as well as I do the bible is clear about the role of pastors and teachers in a Christians life. How do you explain away that?
__________________ "I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
Titus2woman on AFF
"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
Where you anti church people miss the point is that you want to throw out the baby with the bath water.
You may have had bad experiences at your church but that does not mean there are not good churches out there that are fulfilling their role in bringing people to Christ and discipling them.
A person in crisis like this desperately needs the love and prayers of a church family and the counsel of a godly man or men.
You guys want him to cut ties, be on his own, and just take some more drugs. Good grief. This is the first time in a long time I have just outright wanted to rebuke people on this forum.
Tell me this batman. How many of you brilliant people who "take a break" from church ever go back? How many ever search and find one to plug in to?
The answer is pretty much zero and you know as well as I do the bible is clear about the role of pastors and teachers in a Christians life. How do you explain away that?
CC, you have a point, and it might be the most overriding one--if his church is straight. But what if it isn't? How does anyone justify Prozac, when God made pot, I wonder. Why do you think satan outlawed it? Rat poison (fluoride) is somehow better?
If your church does you good, you will miss it, and return.
You can get spiritually fed lots of other places, although I agree
with regular fellowship. Unfortunately, we are in a time of scattering stones there. A good case can be made, obv, for refusing to set foot in a church with a mortgage, for example; or one with a cross on the roof. you think Christ would go in there? You only hope He will.
Or, lets rephrase. Keep going to that church, and taking
that yack. This is the def of insanity, to keep doing the same things and expecting a diff result.
Praying for you Matt. I don't have any answers or suggestions for you, and I don't know that you are really looking for any answers anyway from all of us here, as you had expressed that your post may just be a way to outsource your pain.
However, I know that the Great Physician, and the Healer knows exactly what you need. I will hold you up in prayer... because we all have times where we can't pray ourselves at all, and need the prayers of others to strengthen and encourage us.
Matt, please don't take medical advice from idiots on the internet. Take your meds as prescribed, please. Forgive your sis and BIL, and talk to your doctor.
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If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
2 Chronicles 7:14 KJV
He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
Where you anti church people miss the point is that you want to throw out the baby with the bath water.
You may have had bad experiences at your church but that does not mean there are not good churches out there that are fulfilling their role in bringing people to Christ and discipling them.
A person in crisis like this desperately needs the love and prayers of a church family and the counsel of a godly man or men.
You guys want him to cut ties, be on his own, and just take some more drugs. Good grief. This is the first time in a long time I have just outright wanted to rebuke people on this forum.
Tell me this batman. How many of you brilliant people who "take a break" from church ever go back? How many ever search and find one to plug in to?
The answer is pretty much zero and you know as well as I do the bible is clear about the role of pastors and teachers in a Christians life. How do you explain away that?
Matt, please don't take medical advice from idiots on the internet. Take your meds as prescribed, please. Forgive your sis and BIL, and talk to your doctor.
Let the church say amen.
I wish that some godly men and women would get on here tonight and see this thread and give some godly advice.
I have no ill will towards any of the posters but this is a Pentecostal - Apostolic CHRISTIAN forum and while a wide array of opinions on many matters is welcome on here counseling people to leave church and use illegal drugs is absurd.
This thread is not some theoretical discussion on doctrine or church culture. It is a man bearing his soul. A man who is going through a really tough time right now and needs godly, spiritual advice.
__________________ "I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
Titus2woman on AFF
"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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