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02-03-2011, 07:43 PM
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Re: How easy is it to Lose Salvation?
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Philippians Chapter 1. verse 6, Being confident of this very thing,that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ.
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02-03-2011, 07:51 PM
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Re: How easy is it to Lose Salvation?
There are too many scriptures that indicates that "once saved, always saved no matter what" is not Bible.
I'll share just one set of scriptures here:
Our names are added to the "book of life" when we are genuinely born again according to scripture, the scripture below shows that your name could be blotted back out if you are not an overcomer.
Revelation 3:5 "He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life...."
.......and the following verse shows the consequences of not having your name in the book of life:
Revelation 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
(I am not saying it is easy to lose your salvation at the drop of a hat so to speak, but I would not want anyone to have a false assurance that they could backslide and still make Heaven if they did not repent and return to God before leaving this life)
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02-03-2011, 08:12 PM
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Re: How easy is it to Lose Salvation?
Can someone lose salvation? No. But there are some people who've thrown it away.
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02-04-2011, 12:50 PM
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Re: How easy is it to Lose Salvation?
Luke's theology perfectly represents what I have been force-fed all of my life.
This idea that God is constantly looking for a reason to throw us into Hell is a huge part of the UC culture of fear.
Jesus is the Good Shepherd who gives His life for the sheep. He stands in the gap to protect us.
A shepherd is a gatherer. He's always looking for those who've strayed, and has, in fact, come to seek and save that which is lost. No shepherd worth his salt wants to destroy a sheep.
If you, being the sheep of His pasture, are lost, it's because you absolutely choose to be, and not because He drives you away.
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02-04-2011, 12:57 PM
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Re: How easy is it to Lose Salvation?
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Luke's theology perfectly represents what I have been force-fed all of my life.
This idea that God is constantly looking for a reason to throw us into Hell is a huge part of the UC culture of fear.
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He is not LOOKING for a reason. He judges justly what happens! his mercy is his love compelling us back and he gives us his Spirit to overcome the power of the flesh.
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Jesus is the Good Shepherd who gives His life for the sheep. He stands in the gap to protect us.
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yes by LEADING US WHEN WE FOLLOW!
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A shepherd is a gatherer. He's always looking for those who've strayed, and has, in fact, come to seek and save that which is lost. No shepherd worth his salt wants to destroy a sheep.
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Yes, like Ephesus but a point in time when he leaves and he stops compelling!
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If you, being the sheep of His pasture, are lost, it's because you absolutely choose to be, and not because He drives you away.
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Never said he drove you away. His law is just and so is his justice!
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02-04-2011, 12:59 PM
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Re: How easy is it to Lose Salvation?
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Luke's theology perfectly represents what I have been force-fed all of my life.
This idea that God is constantly looking for a reason to throw us into Hell is a huge part of the UC culture of fear.
Jesus is the Good Shepherd who gives His life for the sheep. He stands in the gap to protect us.
A shepherd is a gatherer. He's always looking for those who've strayed, and has, in fact, come to seek and save that which is lost. No shepherd worth his salt wants to destroy a sheep.
If you, being the sheep of His pasture, are lost, it's because you absolutely choose to be, and not because He drives you away.
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Was it easy for the "one lost sheep" to get away? NO! The Shepherd left the ninety and nine and came looking for the one lost sheep! The Shepherd didn't take the attitude "oh well that's one less sheep that I'll have to put up with! He shouldn't have wandered away. He's on his own. I hope he finds his way back. And when he gets back if he doesn't show me some "action....works" that convince me that he has earned the right to be here...too bad!"
No, thank God it was not easy for the one lost sheep to get away!
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02-04-2011, 12:59 PM
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Re: How easy is it to Lose Salvation?
When sanctification becomes salvation, we are all in trouble. It's not longer, burden-less growing and learning in Christ... but it now becomes anxious, will I make it in the end, hellish living that we call religion.
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02-04-2011, 01:14 PM
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Re: How easy is it to Lose Salvation?
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When sanctification becomes salvation, we are all in trouble. It's not longer, burden-less growing and learning in Christ... but it now becomes anxious, will I make it in the end, hellish living that we call religion.
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lol... Let me expand on your thought process.... "when our response to the Spirit becomes death or life we are in trouble"
"when obeying God's will defines if we are his friends we are in trouble."
"when we we make faith actual faithfulness to his will like Abraham" we are in trouble"
"If we have to offer up our Isaacs for the covenant and receive te promises and considered right before God we are in trouble"
"when salvation is to them that obey we are in trouble"
"when doing his commandments give us right to the tree of life we are in trouble"
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02-04-2011, 01:16 PM
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Re: How easy is it to Lose Salvation?
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lol... Let me expand on your thought process.... "when our response to the Spirit becomes death or life we are in trouble"
"when obeying God's will defines if we are his friends we are in trouble."
"when we we make faith actual faithfulness to his will like Abraham" we are in trouble"
"If we have to offer up our Isaacs for the covenant and receive te promises and considered right before God we are in trouble"
"when salvation is to them that obey we are in trouble"
"when doing his commandments give us right to the tree of life we are in trouble"
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You have the cart ahead of the horse, Lukey.
When Grace becomes more about what we do, and less about what Christ has done... we are all in trouble! Scratch that --- we are all screwed.
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02-04-2011, 01:44 PM
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Re: How easy is it to Lose Salvation?
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You have the cart ahead of the horse, Lukey.
When Grace becomes more about what we do, and less about what Christ has done... we are all in trouble! Scratch that --- we are all screwed.
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grace is about his power in us to do his will and to not walk after the flesh.
Jesus made it about what we do in response to his call. If you do not take up my cross you are not worthy of my. CONDITIONS are given. It is not more about me than Christ it is about Christ in me and me following or following after the flesh and negating the leading of Christ which is enmity and unrighteousness toward the covenant.
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