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Re: Something I thought I would never see.........
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Originally Posted by jfrog
First of all I'll give you the benefit of not thinking you meant ill by the bolded. Second, I want to say that kclee4jc has my respect. I don't agree with her and I even think God showed me different than he did her but she has my respect. So what's my problem with your post? Well it implies that kleec4jc isn't learning Christian principles and implementing them because she wants something EASIER. I mean wow! That's a big accusation. But I don't think you meant it to imply that... at least I hope you didn't!
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Frogperson, you are correct that I did not mean ill by suggesting that this person, and many others, find the legalism of old time Pentecost comforting and easier than personally implementing Christian principles in their lives.
I do stand by the statement though and believe it 100%. Not an insult just something I consider a fact from almost 52 years of being in or around the UPC.
Most UPC folks I know can't fathom the concept of a preacher teaching principles in scripture and then allowing room for saints in their own study, prayer, and seeking God to apply them to their lives. They want that laundry list everybody has to line up with. Yes I think that is a comfort and easier than the way I described.
You cannot seperate the psychology of the human mind from the approaches different religious systems take. Old time Pentecost pounds extra biblical legalism into peoples heads then if they feel quilty about violating one of the rules that guilt is called conviction. I do believe in conviction but in old time Pentecost I believe the vast amount of the time what is called conviction is instead guilt from psychological conditioning.
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"I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
Titus2woman on AFF
"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
Last edited by CC1; 02-27-2011 at 08:52 PM.
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