The Name

[stmatthew]

Originally Posted by Falla39

Wonder if it was just a technicality when Jesus called for

Lazarus, to come forth. What would have happened if He had

not called a name!! Would all the dead have come forth! He

called one name!!! One man came forth! He identified one man!

Identity!


For GOD (HIS FATHER) hath HIGHLY EXALTED HIM and GIVEN HIM

a (THE) NAME, that at the NAME of JESUS, every knee should bow of

things in heaven and things in earth, and things under the earth; AND

that every tongue should confess that JESUS CHRIST IS LORD, to the

glory of GOD, THE FATHER!!

Sounds like more than a technicality to me!

Blessings,

Falla39

Sis Falla,

God does seem to like being technical and particular, doesn't he?

GOOD POST!

[Falla39]

Originally Posted by stmatthew

Sis Falla,

God does seem to like being technical and particular, doesn't he?

GOOD POST!

Thank you, Bro. Matt,

I just love to please Him to the best of my ability!!

Makes for a wonderful relationship!! If you really love

someone, you will count it a priviledge to please them.

He loved me first! He loved me from an old rugged cross!

I would do anything for Him!!! If I have any doubts about

what He wants me to do, I just ask Him. He teaches me

from His Word and by His Spirit!! They agree!

Blessings,

Falla39

[freeatlast]

Originally Posted by Falla39

Wonder if it was just a technicality when Jesus called for

Lazarus, to come forth. What would have happened if He had

not called a name!! Would all the dead have come forth! He

called one name!!! One man came forth! He identified one man!

Identity!


For GOD (HIS FATHER) hath HIGHLY EXALTED HIM and GIVEN HIM

a (THE) NAME, that at the NAME of JESUS, every knee should bow of

things in heaven and things in earth, and things under the earth; AND

that every tongue should confess that JESUS CHRIST IS LORD, to the

glory of GOD, THE FATHER!!

Sounds like more than a technicality to me!

Blessings,

Falla39

Dear Sis Falla: I am not disageeing with you here. I love everything the name of Jesus represents.

I fear sometimes though that we love the name more then the named.

I sometimes don't type so well..or get my thoughts to come across in the written word.

So sorry to have upset some here today with a "thought" about the name, on a thread entitled "the name"

[Falla39]

Originally Posted by freeatlast

Dear Sis Falla: I am not disageeing with you here. I love everything the name of Jesus represents.

I fear sometimes though that we love the name more then the named.

I sometimes don't type so well..or get my thoughts to come across in the written word.

So sorry to have upset some here today with a "thought" about the name, on a thread entitled "the name"

Dear Bro. freeatlast,

I was responding to the thread or "thought" but am not upset although

there are some that evidently are! I love everyone and this has nothing

to do with not loving or being upset. Iron sharpenth iron. These threads

help me to have something to practice on. If we never have opposition,

how will we know if we can stand or not!

I have heard many times through the years, "could or would you stand

up to someone trying to get you to deny Jesus". And I don't believe that

that has anything to do with the thread. I do believe we can use these

posts to sharpen our sword, so to speak. And that's all I am doing!:happydanc

Blessings,

Falla39

[Joelel]

Originally Posted by Falla39

Wonder if it was just a technicality when Jesus called for

Lazarus, to come forth. What would have happened if He had

not called a name!! Would all the dead have come forth! He

called one name!!! One man came forth! He identified one man!

Identity!


For GOD (HIS FATHER) hath HIGHLY EXALTED HIM and GIVEN HIM

a (THE) NAME, that at the NAME of JESUS, every knee should bow of

things in heaven and things in earth, and things under the earth; AND

that every tongue should confess that JESUS CHRIST IS LORD, to the

glory of GOD, THE FATHER!!

Sounds like more than a technicality to me!

Blessings,

Falla39

Your right my friend,people play with God and his name like it's a toy.That's why i'm not even talking to some of thes people.

[ThePastorsCoach]

Originally Posted by Joelel

Your right my friend,people play with God and his name like it's a toy.That's why i'm not even talking to some of thes people.

Awe - Why Can't we all just get along and be FREINDS!!!!!!!

[Joelel]

Originally Posted by AtlantaBishop

Awe - Why Can't we all just get along and be FREINDS!!!!!!!

Sounds alot like foolish talking and jesting to me.I know most pentecostals are good at it.Eph.5:3: But fornication, and all uncleanness, or covetousness, let it not be once named among you, as becometh saints;4: Neither filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor jesting, which are not convenient: but rather giving of thanks.5: For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God

[Ron]

Originally Posted by freeatlast

Some would think this would cause some trouble for those who say if "the Name" is not called over the one in the water that NO sins are remitted.

They'll disqualify F.S. and H.G. on a technicallity...but give no thought to the fact the the "magic name" was really never spoken over them in baptism.











OK..I'm not serious here....and i don't think God is that "serious" either, that He would disqualify your baptism on a technicallity.

There we go trying to put God into a context as man.
Unless he said in his word that the n ame spoken over him in baptism is not really important, I wouldn't want to stand and speak for God.

The Apostles and the Early Church baptised in the Name of Jesus, I don't want to do otherwise.

[Joelel]

Originally Posted by Digging4Truth

I posted this in another thread and then quickly deleted it. I decided that it would be HUGE departure from topic and it wouldn't be fair to the thread to throw such a boulder into the intended flow.

In the "Be Ye Perfect" thread Michael The Disciple used the term Yeshua.

To which AtlantaBishop replied...



My question...

Now why on earth would you say that?

Names are universal.

When I call the lady at the restaurant up town Juanita should I speak to her in spanish?

Why we use a translation of a translation is a bit of a wonder to me.

Names are generally not translated these days. Apparently they were back then.

But I certainly can't see why one would find themselves incorrect for using a pronunciation that is truer to the original name given.

The name spoken by the angel is nearly (if not exactly) the same as the name of the OT Joshua. Why did they end up sounding so differently? Moses had to stay behind and only Joshua (Y@howshuwa` {yeh-ho-shoo'-ah}) could lead them over into the promised land. Joshua was a type of Christ and shares the same basic name with Christ.

One is now called Joshua (sounding very reminiscent of the original pronunciation although there was no "J" sound back then) and one is now called Jesus (bearing almost no resemblance to the original pronunciation)

And we... the "people of the name" criticize one for trying to utter a pronunciation closest to the name the angel demanded Mary give to the Messiah?

Why would we do that?

Any thoughts?

Digging,You tell us all how does a person call on authority If it's not talking about calling on Jesus? Acts.2
[21] And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved.

Tell us all how authority saves us ? Acts 4:[12] Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name (authority)under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.

How are we saved here if Jesus is not important ? The word name (authority)is not hear.Acts16:[31] And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.

Once again how does a person call on authority If it's not talking about calling on Jesus.? Acts.22
[16] And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name(authority) of the Lord.

[ThePastorsCoach]

Originally Posted by Digging4Truth

I posted this in another thread and then quickly deleted it. I decided that it would be HUGE departure from topic and it wouldn't be fair to the thread to throw such a boulder into the intended flow.

In the "Be Ye Perfect" thread Michael The Disciple used the term Yeshua.

To which AtlantaBishop replied...



My question...

Now why on earth would you say that?

Names are universal.

When I call the lady at the restaurant up town Juanita should I speak to her in Spanish?

Why we use a translation of a translation is a bit of a wonder to me.

Names are generally not translated these days. Apparently they were back then.

But I certainly can't see why one would find themselves incorrect for using a pronunciation that is truer to the original name given.

The name spoken by the angel is nearly (if not exactly) the same as the name of the OT Joshua. Why did they end up sounding so differently? Moses had to stay behind and only Joshua (Y@howshuwa` {yeh-ho-shoo'-ah}) could lead them over into the promised land. Joshua was a type of Christ and shares the same basic name with Christ.

One is now called Joshua (sounding very reminiscent of the original pronunciation although there was no "J" sound back then) and one is now called Jesus (bearing almost no resemblance to the original pronunciation)

And we... the "people of the name" criticize one for trying to utter a pronunciation closest to the name the angel demanded Mary give to the Messiah?

Why would we do that?

Any thoughts?

Yes - I will tell you exactly why! BECAUSE WE READ, SPEAK AND WRITE IN ENGLISH! We do not read, speak or write in Hebrew. If I was in Israel and were to baptize a Jew - I would learn the Hebrew translation of Acts 2:38 and baptize the candidate calling on the name of the Lord in HEBREW. If I am in a Spanish speaking nation - I would baptize in Spanish.

The fact of the matter is - I, along with most on this forum and most in America and English speaking nations - do not read, speak or write in Hebrew or other languages. I don't care if the J was not invented until 1955 - it was invented before I was born and used in my teaching and vocabulary and I use it every day and so do you so who cares if there was NOT A J a thousand years ago????????????

I have seen multitudes saved, healed, delivered, baptized and filled with the Holy Ghost - All in the Wonderful Name of our Lord Jesus Christ and I will continue to use the Name that is above every name - JESUS!

Oh yeah - another thing - Everyone of you guys that start off on this Yaway - Yeshua - YAWH - deal - end up growing a long beard and acting crazy and preaching against the letter "J" and EVERY SINGLE ONE has a different pronunciation or spelling to your particular Y name. You don't speak Hebrew - You speak English - Use the translation of the Name in English. JESUS - NO OTHER NAME I KNOW!