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06-29-2012, 10:05 AM
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Re: Just Some Things I've Been Holding In
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I don't believe you! If that is true, who has been eating the milk and cookies then?!! 
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06-29-2012, 10:08 AM
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Re: Just Some Things I've Been Holding In
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I don't believe you! If that is true, who has been eating the milk and cookies then?!! |
Your Daddy!!!!
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06-28-2012, 12:44 PM
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Re: Just Some Things I've Been Holding In
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Originally Posted by Michael Phelps
I think the point that is being missed is that what ILG has gone thru, among hundreds of others, is not a UPC thing, or a CHURCH thing, but a HUMAN thing.......people treat each other poorly, whether you're in the church or out of it. To blame an organization for the actions of its members is akin to blaming the government of a nation when one of it's constituents commits a crime. There may be a connection, but it's not a direct result of the organization.
I agree that the UPC indoctrinates its constituents to view others outside the Mother Ship as "less than", but it's up to the individual to govern his or her own actions toward others.
Now, I say all that to say this - the exact same thing happens in schools, jobs, neighborhoods, clubs, you name it......to expect that you'll ever find a place where no one causes you grief is to expect Nirvana on earth, and just like Santa Claus - that don't exist.
That's why Hemingway wrote this comment, and I'll post it again, just in case it got lost in the shuffle:
“The world breaks everyone, and afterward,
some are strong at the broken places.” Ernest Hemingway
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I wish everyone who decides to walk away from the UPC, or whatever organization had this healthy attitude.
You know, we have been reading what some posters have been saying for year after year after year. Makes you wonder if anything could ever make them happy. We've all been hurt. But as long as we keep picking at the scab, the wound will NEVER heal.
Find an organization, or church, that will make you happy and thrive there. And I truly wish you well...
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06-28-2012, 11:57 AM
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This is still that!
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Re: Just Some Things I've Been Holding In
I think the rules are just asking us to be kind to one another
http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...hread.php?t=35
Attitudes
Organizations can be discussed but not assaulted.
Posters can have disagreements but not bloodbaths.
Apostolic truth can be questioned but not be mocked.
Doctrinal absolutes can be queried but not criticized.
Admin can be contacted privately but not called out openly.
Standards can be debated but not minimized and disrespected.
Posts can be diametrically opposed but not diabolically attacking.
Concerns can be expressed freely but not just hurled and unrestricted.
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06-28-2012, 12:03 PM
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Re: Just Some Things I've Been Holding In
ILG I was not singling you out in my post. I totally understand what you and your husband went through is horrible. And I personally hope it's not the norm for any organization.
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He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
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06-28-2012, 12:05 PM
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Re: Just Some Things I've Been Holding In
As to my post about breaking forum rules, one of them is no name calling......IE stupid and asinine, which ILG had happen to her. Or singling out a certain poster for ridicule. Tearing down truth and doctrine. You can disagree without breaking the rules.
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If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
2 Chronicles 7:14 KJV
He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
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06-28-2012, 10:19 PM
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Re: Just Some Things I've Been Holding In
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Originally Posted by Cindy
As to my post about breaking forum rules, one of them is no name calling......IE stupid and asinine, which ILG had happen to her. Or singling out a certain poster for ridicule. Tearing down truth and doctrine. You can disagree without breaking the rules.
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Okay, thank you Cindy, for clarifying that for me.
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06-28-2012, 10:24 PM
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Re: Just Some Things I've Been Holding In
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Okay, thank you Cindy, for clarifying that for me.
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You're sure welcome, ILG.
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If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
2 Chronicles 7:14 KJV
He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
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06-28-2012, 12:14 PM
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Re: Just Some Things I've Been Holding In
For the record, no one called ILG or anyone else stupid or assinine.
I said her position was. The fact that so many cannot apparently tell the difference between attacking a position and attacking a person is frustrating. And the other poster criticzing ILG's position wasn't calling her names either.
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06-28-2012, 12:19 PM
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Re: Just Some Things I've Been Holding In
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Originally Posted by Nitehawk013
For the record, no one called ILG or anyone else stupid or assinine.
I said her position was. The fact that so many cannot apparently tell the difference between attacking a position and attacking a person is frustrating. And the other poster criticzing ILG's position wasn't calling her names either.
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That's it in a nutshell, but she felt personally attacked. So words like stupid and asinine directed toward an idea or thought, may not be the best way to go.
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If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
2 Chronicles 7:14 KJV
He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
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