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Old 03-14-2010, 08:33 PM
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Re: Validate by Experience

The name of this thread should be changed. Perhaps something like "How To Destroy Faith Among Followers Of Jesus". This assault on scripture equals any I have ever seen. The devil is well pleased.
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Old 03-14-2010, 08:37 PM
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The name of this thread should be changed. Perhaps something like "How To Destroy Faith Among Followers Of Jesus". This assault on scripture equals any I have ever seen. The devil is well pleased.
So, experience may or may not line up with your faith, and who cares if it doesn't? What if your "faith" is in something that isn't really true? Does it not even matter?
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The name of this thread should be changed. Perhaps something like "How To Destroy Faith Among Followers Of Jesus". This assault on scripture equals any I have ever seen. The devil is well pleased.
The devil is well pleased because folks are speaking honestly? I don't see any faith being attacked......
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The devil is well pleased because folks are speaking honestly? I don't see any faith being attacked......
With the possible exception of my last post? But really, if someone's faith can be destroyed by comments and questions like the ones in this thread, maybe it's time to rethink that faith.
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Old 03-14-2010, 08:40 PM
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With the possible exception of my last post? But really, if someone's faith can be destroyed by comments and questions like the ones in this thread, maybe it's time to rethink that faith.
The truth will stand if it's truth. If it's not truth, it needs to be exposed as being false. So, I wouldn't be the least bit afraid of questions.
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The truth will stand if it's truth. If it's not truth, it needs to be exposed as being false. So, I wouldn't be the least bit afraid of questions.
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The truth will stand if it's truth. If it's not truth, it needs to be exposed as being false. So, I wouldn't be the least bit afraid of questions.
An absolute, Amen!

When bound by Religion, the only thing that keeps us from the Truth is FEAR, and those that cling to a lie know this.
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The Bible is just a Book, built by men who expressed what “God told them”, just like men today say, “God told me”. It’s a book of History, full of error. It’s a Book that confuses the World about God.
This is a direct assault against scripture. Nuff said as a word to the wise is sufficient.
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The spirit of Not For Sale said
"The Bible is just a Book, built by men who expressed what “God told them”, just like men today say, “God told me”. It’s a book of History, full of error. It’s a Book that confuses the World about God. Like I’ve stated numerous times, if the Bible was simple, and God expressed in the Bible was pure, we would have unity by it, not WAR."


This is a direct assault against scripture. Nuff said as a word to the wise is sufficient.

In the past, my initial opinion of NFS's posts regarding above topic were the same as yours, and I took issue with the conclusion. My problem was that I was too quick to assume his conclusion. I think its safe to say he isn't a Biblical inerrantist. That is his position, but I do not fault him for asking serious questions or pointing out debatable issues with the scriptures.

I assume your stance would bring us into an epistemological argument, in which case, the burden of proof would rest upon you to verify the claims and validity of certain documents/books. I'm not sure you can do that, but your welcome to contribute to the philosophical debate, and I would very much like to learn anything new you could present.
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Re: Validate by Experience

Just thinking here but Paul tells Timothy that all scripture,
2Ti 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
But to what scripture was he refering to. All the books that we have made canon? New testament had not been compiled as far as I can see at this time. As for what we put to being OT we can only speculate on what books Paul refered to. My understanding is that most of the OT books we hold to as cannon are because Jesus quoted from them. Of course not counting the books of the Law. Just my humble opinion but Just because Jesus quoted from on part of the writting of a prophet does not make every word said prophet penned Inspired word. as Peter wrote
2Pe 1:20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.
2Pe 1:21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.
Note he did not say all scripture but all prophecy of scripture. Just a thought to get some thinking
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