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Old 03-14-2010, 03:48 PM
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Ideally, there would be a feedback loop in place, where experience tests and either validates or invalidates one's philosophy, and one would then modify the philosophy to fit experience (reality) better.
Does the only valid experiences consists of those we can sense? What about the supernatural? Reading just a small portion of this thread makes me realize how little patience I have with this junk since I've become a Christian and my Christian conversion experiences have proven to me that the word of God, the Bible, it true!
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Old 03-14-2010, 03:53 PM
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Does the only valid experiences consists of those we can sense? What about the supernatural? Reading just a small portion of this thread makes me realize how little patience I have with this junk since I've become a Christian and my Christian conversion experiences have proven to me that the word of God, the Bible, it true!
Supernatural experiences can "prove" any religion, not just Christianity.
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Old 03-14-2010, 04:55 PM
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Ideally, there would be a feedback loop in place, where experience tests and either validates or invalidates one's philosophy, and one would then modify the philosophy to fit experience (reality) better.

Yes...its called Parsimony!
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Does the only valid experiences consists of those we can sense? What about the supernatural?

What about the supernatural? Perhaps God defies our laws from time to time for our benefit, but I don't think He expects us to disregard the natural order of things based off of those anomalous experiences. Neither do I believe in a cosmic jokster, or a schizophrenic deity setting about to confuse humanity; hence, many of us have to reevaluate when people say or write "God said!"

Do you suppose God enjoys playing mind games with the human race? I think what NFS and I are saying, is that we struggle with our current available translation of scripture seeing how it seems to exhibit certain errors here and there. Could it be that 2 Timothy 3:16 includes room in its meaning for human error? Pardon me if I may have missed it, but have you attempted to reconcile these apparent discrepancies we've presented here and on other threads?

btw, thanks for sharing the link to the website regarding Biblical Inerrancy. I am going through it slowly. And for the record, my belief is that the Original Manuscripts were inerrant.
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. . . And for the record, my belief is that the Original Manuscripts were inerrant.
But not preserved?

Which manuscripts? The ones for the 66 books we accept today as the canon?
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The name of this thread should be changed. Perhaps something like "How To Destroy Faith Among Followers Of Jesus". This assault on scripture equals any I have ever seen. The devil is well pleased.
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Old 03-14-2010, 08:37 PM
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The name of this thread should be changed. Perhaps something like "How To Destroy Faith Among Followers Of Jesus". This assault on scripture equals any I have ever seen. The devil is well pleased.
So, experience may or may not line up with your faith, and who cares if it doesn't? What if your "faith" is in something that isn't really true? Does it not even matter?
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The name of this thread should be changed. Perhaps something like "How To Destroy Faith Among Followers Of Jesus". This assault on scripture equals any I have ever seen. The devil is well pleased.
The devil is well pleased because folks are speaking honestly? I don't see any faith being attacked......
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The devil is well pleased because folks are speaking honestly? I don't see any faith being attacked......
With the possible exception of my last post? But really, if someone's faith can be destroyed by comments and questions like the ones in this thread, maybe it's time to rethink that faith.
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With the possible exception of my last post? But really, if someone's faith can be destroyed by comments and questions like the ones in this thread, maybe it's time to rethink that faith.
The truth will stand if it's truth. If it's not truth, it needs to be exposed as being false. So, I wouldn't be the least bit afraid of questions.
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