A Relevant Holiness Message

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by DAII

Your past is under the blood. (This will convert her to the one-step view, NOW)

It sure is and that is why I'm not going to talk about it.

You won't change my mind. The one step makes no sense. For one, Peter "commanded" Cornelius and his household to be baptized. He was true to his message on the Day of Pentecost because all three things took place - Repentance, Holy Ghost infilling and baptism.

There is rarely anything mentioned that stands alone. For instance, His blood was shed for our remission, but we have to repent and be baptized for that remission. God always makes his part available and hopes for our obedience.

[notofworks]

Originally Posted by Esther

I have not read the entire thread, but I have 3 things to say.

1. Folks better get the respect for the pulpit back and preach what God says!
2. Folks better be careful in touching God's anointed.
3. You reap what you sow. So shall your harvest be.

1. Folks better get the respect for the pulpit back and preach what God says!

••Exactly, stop wasting time bashing other preachers for using secular music, and stop bashing other preachers for singing slow songs.

2. Folks better be careful in touching God's anointed.

••Exactly!! Guys like Poe better watch it before they mock another elder minister like Bro. Ewing. And RM better be careful condemning other pastors for what they do in their churches!!! You're preaching, Esther!!! Man, I feel like running the aisles!!!

3. You reap what you sow. So shall your harvest be.

••Yep, and we saw it here. RM got on the internet and bashed another pastor for what he did, and what do you know, someone got on the internet and caught him in a blatant contradiction.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Esther

I totally understand. I had a similiar thing happen with a UPC minister. He was just WRONG! But he is a well respected minister and gets by with it,and if I said more someone might know who I am referring to and it is not my intention to bring them harm.

Right, I'm not going to read something when the author says God turned and spoke to the Holy Spirit. Not happenin'. LOL!

[MissBrattified]

Originally Posted by notofworks

So did she wear makeup in person like she did on the album cover?

NOW, you obviously don't know what an eyelash curler, clear mascara, lipgloss and photo editing to a higher contrast can do for a picture.

No makeup need be involved. Let me illustrate what just high contrast can do (obviously no curlers, mascara or lipgloss employed here):

DSC02049-2.jpg vs. pic3.jpg

Wow...look at those lashes. Boys always get the BEST lashes!!!!!

[Esther]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

I have studied my Bible and I still believe what I believed 25 years ago.


Right, it is about homosexuality.


You are asking someone that used to sell Lancome. I hate makeup. The world forces it on you. But, I do wear base on occasion - organic.

I think that I would want to be careful when the Word says a women's long hair is her glory/dignity. I don't see how we could say it can't be cut. I was reading where it was said, "It may be necessary to reach outside the Greek to say uncut". I don't think Paul would reach outside the Greek. He didn't need to. "Akoptos" in the Greek means "uncut", so Paul had a word he could have used. IMO, when you say shorn or shaven, you are talking about the way a man would cut his hair. That is "cropped short" or "shaved off".

I have never liked jewelry, hate rings, earrings, but I think if we taught moderation it would be more true to what the Word is talking about. It is not saying not to wear it.

People are generally obsessive compulsive about things, so you would simply need to set an example. Nothing wrong with dress codes. If places of business have rules of dress, there is nothing wrong with the church having them as well. We want to be a decent society.

[notofworks]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

I have studied my Bible and I still believe what I believed 25 years ago.


Right, it is about homosexuality.


You are asking someone that used to sell Lancome. I hate makeup. The world forces it on you. But, I do wear base on occasion - organic.

I think that I would want to be careful when the Word says a women's long hair is her glory/dignity. I don't see how we could say it can't be cut. I was reading where it was said, "It may be necessary to reach outside the Greek to say uncut". I don't think Paul would reach outside the Greek. He didn't need to. "Akoptos" in the Greek means "uncut", so Paul had a word he could have used. IMO, when you say shorn or shaven, you are talking about the way a man would cut his hair. That is "cropped short" or "shaved off".

I have never liked jewelry, hate rings, earrings, but I think if we taught moderation it would be more true to what the Word is talking about. It is not saying not to wear it.

People are generally obsessive compulsive about things, so you would simply need to set an example. Nothing wrong with dress codes. If places of business have rules of dress, there is nothing wrong with the church having them as well. We want to be a decent society.

Well, I was 27 before I finally had the guts to wake up, so you've still got two years!

Just one thing about the makeup....the world forces it on you?? My wife has never had it forced on her and "The world" had nothing to do with her deciding to wear it.

[triumphant1]

Originally Posted by notofworks

1. Folks better get the respect for the pulpit back and preach what God says!

••Exactly, stop wasting time bashing other preachers for using secular music, and stop bashing other preachers for singing slow songs.

2. Folks better be careful in touching God's anointed.

••Exactly!! Guys like Poe better watch it before they mock another elder minister like Bro. Ewing. And RM better be careful condemning other pastors for what they do in their churches!!! You're preaching, Esther!!! Man, I feel like running the aisles!!!

3. You reap what you sow. So shall your harvest be.

••Yep, and we saw it here. RM got on the internet and bashed another pastor for what he did, and what do you know, someone got on the internet and caught him in a blatant contradiction.

LOL! I am not exactly sure this is what E meant....but...your points are valid!!

[notofworks]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Her husband said she didn't wear it, so you are spreading a falsehood. You can't criticize GP now. Toe Torry

I am still up. I must be losing my mind. Can't go to bed until I finish Poe's message.

Oh stop it, it was a joke. But I'm going to PM you something about a person who "didn't wear makeup."

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

NOW, you obviously don't know what an eyelash curler, clear mascara, lipgloss and photo editing to a higher contrast can do for a picture.

No makeup need be involved. Let me illustrate what just high contrast can do (obviously no curlers, mascara or lipgloss employed here):

Attachment 3320 vs. Attachment 3321

Wow...look at those lashes. Boys always get the BEST lashes!!!!!

He's too cute to be a boy! LOL!

[MissBrattified]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

He's too cute to be a boy! LOL!

Those eyes just slay me. I mean, when they well up with tears, it's even worse. I can't EVER spank him. Sue me.