... surely you don't believe that you were born before Psalm 87 was written? Or "the Book?"
You assert that the "Book of Life" contains your destiny. This destiny was preordained (your name written) before you could ever chose right from wrong. Before you were even in your mother's womb. That's Predestination.
There is IMHO a vast difference between the foreknowledge of God and predestination. Predestination, for the sake of simplification, is a predetermined outcome that is unavoidable. Thus if I were predestined to be saved/lost I would have no choice in the matter, it would happen regardless of my decisions.
Foreknowledge, on the other hand, states that God already knows the choices I will make. (He is not forcing me to make them) Thus, because he knows the end from the beginning, he can write my name in the Lambs Book of Life, (or not) not because he has manipulated my destiny, but because he knows my choices.
There is IMHO a vast difference between the foreknowledge of God and predestination. Predestination, for the sake of simplification, is a predetermined outcome that is unavoidable. Thus if I were predestined to be saved/lost I would have no choice in the matter, it would happen regardless of my decisions.
Foreknowledge, on the other hand, states that God already knows the choices I will make. (He is not forcing me to make them) Thus, because he knows the end from the beginning, he can write my name in the Lambs Book of Life, (or not) not because he has manipulated my destiny, but because he knows my choices.
Amen and amen.
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"Many Christians do not try to understand what was written in a verse in the Bible. Instead they approach the passage to prove what they already believe."
Bump. Sis Renee considering some of your recent threads you should read through this thread. Some good info and back n forth.
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"Resolved: That all men should live to the glory of God. Resolved, secondly: That whether or not anyone else does, I will." ~Jonathan Edwards
"The only man who has the right to say he is justified by grace alone is the man who has left all to follow Christ." ~Dietrich Bonheoffer, The Cost of Discipleship
"Preachers who should be fishing for men are now too often fishing for compliments from men." ~Leonard Ravenhill
Man wrote the Bible. Man chose which books to include in the Bible. Man interprets the Bible.
What alternative is there?
Believe that although man did tamper with God's Word. God did not leave us without a witness. There is enough proof in the Bible to show the way.
And even in History and the enemies that came later, in their writing's, they prove what they intended to condemn.
Believe that although man did tamper with God's Word. God did not leave us without a witness. There is enough proof in the Bible to show the way.
And even in History and the enemies that came later, in their writing's, they prove what they intended to condemn.
Why are there so many "plans of salvation" (only one of which is correct)?
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Hebrews 13:23 Know ye that our brother Timothy is set at liberty
Timmy I read that there are over 3,000 Christian Denominations.
There are many reasons,
1. Each man that started a new Denomination thought they could improve on God's Plan
2. For POWER
3. Money
4. Let's not leave out Satan's influence
THE ONLY ANSWER IS TO GO BACK TO THE FOUNDATION.
Seems reasonable. Now, would you say that everyone who does that -- goes back to the foundation, i.e. studies the Bible and ignores everything anyone else has ever said about it (being suspect) -- will come to the same conclusion regarding salvation? Have you done that? If someone else does that and disagrees with you, would that prove that they had one of those four items influencing them?
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Hebrews 13:23 Know ye that our brother Timothy is set at liberty
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