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Old 08-31-2007, 08:30 AM
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But the religious rite is not intended to be done without the faith ath is the kicker in it all. That is why Jesus said "He that believeth and is baptized..."





REPENT and BE CONVERTED. Two elements. I think the TURNING and converting in Acts 3 involves a reference to baptism. Repentance accompanied with baptism is the idea. And the emphasis Romans 6 puts upon baptism stresses the issue quite clearly. But we must recall it is FAITH in it, when we do it.

For some reason, God wants us -- commands us -- to act these things out. As in communion. But it has to have faith in it.

But anyway, back to the issue.
Unfortunately, Elder your "interpretation" of Acts 3:19 is based on the 1611 language you blasted the other day. The KJV uses the word "converted" which for the sacramentalist, of course involves a multi-step "soul wash process" while the Greek word Epistrepho which connotes turning to God ...

Epistrepho
  1. transitively
  2. to turn to
    1. to the worship of the true God
  3. to cause to return, to bring back
    1. to the love and obedience of God
    2. to the love for the children
    3. to love wisdom and righteousness
  4. intransitively
  5. to turn to one's self
  6. to turn one's self about, turn back
  7. to return, turn back, come back
NASB "Therefore repent and return, so that your sins may be wiped away, in order that times of refreshing may come from the presence of the Lord;


The same preacher at Pentecost, Peter, knew what the writer of Hebrews knew when in various instances he tells us that the work of our Lamb and High Priest begins when WE DRAW NIGH UNTO GOD .... are sins are wiped away, blotted, remitted, forgiven at REPENTANCE ....

The very same writer of Acts ... Luke in his Gospel tells us our sins remitted/forgiven/blotted out/wiped out [aphesis] at repentance.

Luke 24:47


and that repentance for forgiveness of sins would be proclaimed in His name to all the nations, beginning from Jerusalem.
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