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09-21-2007, 10:21 PM
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Barb
No, only in California. But he is a long time friend that I see only rarely anymore. He has one of the finest minds in Pentecost today. I've done my best with Raven Letters to keep him "balanced" over the years.:sshhh
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Ahhh...okay then. Just trying to do the Sherlock thing and find out if I had ever seen you here, but I guess not.
He is indeed one of the finest men of God I have ever known.
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09-21-2007, 10:48 PM
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Keith
I talked directly today to some people who were in Clyde Haney's first Bible College class and they confirm the "Friends of the Bridegroom" doctrine you mention here. As a student of many of Clyde Haney classes as well as young deer hunting partner I can attest to the same. Clyde Haney was an old cowboy and was friends with another old cowboy C.H. Yadon.
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I kind of knew him as "Uncle Clyde". Great man!
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09-22-2007, 08:18 AM
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As I have discussed this on here before, Clyde Haney did believe that people could be saved outside of a full experience of Acts 2:38, it was the same form that AD Urshan and GT Haywood and others like Ewart believed.
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Does KH hold this view?
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In private yes, organizationally no.
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As someone with his finger on the pulse of what's what out there, do you think or know if his (KH) brothers in law know of his private view?!
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09-22-2007, 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Barb
As someone with his finger on the pulse of what's what out there, do you think or know if his (KH) brothers in law know of his private view?!
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Inquiring minds want to know if Barb holds this view?
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09-22-2007, 08:49 AM
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Phil
Your eye is fairly accurate. That is the Becton's newly married and in one of their first revivals. The other gentleman was Rex Wilcox. On another thought Phil, let's see how accurate my eye is. Were you at the GC in Ft. Worth around 1975? I seem to remember a group of young men with your face in their midst. This group was energetic, noisy [having fun], and I saw them everywhere I seem to look.
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Yes (are you sir or ma'am?) YOU ARE AN EAGLE EYE! I was indeed there! In fact, it was at that meeting that I finally accepted and stepped into my call to the ministry. It was during that youth service when Sis. Loretta Earl wailed about "My God is Good to Me!"and Bro. Will Cohron preached about Moses and Aaron... the title of the message was, I believe, "Who Is Gonna Be Your Aaron" indicating that God was going to get the job done but if we don't step up and fulfill our call he may have to use a substitute and it may delay the fulfillment of His will. Tore me up and made me step up.
Do you recall those robed & bearded oneness folks that collected on the sidewalk outside the convention center... I believe they had left Bro. K Phillips church and formed a commune of sorts... all things common. They were preaching the "worldly" UPC to hell for not eschewing all things carnal, dressing as simple as possible, trusting God implicitly (no medicine) and so on. I got into a huge argument with the leader over this since he was wearing a really nice pair of spectacles to correct his vision. I called him a hypocrite and such... 16 and stupid... who knows, they may have been on to something way back then.
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09-22-2007, 08:51 AM
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yes ma'am, YOU ARE AN EAGLE EYE! I was indeed there! In fact, it was at that meeting that I finally accepted and stepped into my call to the ministry. It was during that youth service when Sis. Loretta Earl wailed about "My God is Good to Me!"and Bro. Will Cohron preached about Moses and Aaron... the title of the message was, I believe, "Who Is Gonna Be Your Aaron" indicating that God was going to get the job done but if we don't step up and fulfill our call he may have to use a substitute and it may delay the fulfillment of His will. Tore me up and made me step up.
Does your first name start with a J and did your dad have a lot to do with Faith Promise and foreign missions?
Do you recall those robed & bearded oneness folks that collected on the sidewalk outside the convention center... I believe they had left Bro. K Phillips church and formed a commune of sorts... all things common. They were preaching the "worldly" UPC to hell for not eschewing all things carnal, dressing as simple as possible, trusting God implicitly (no medicine) and so on. I got into a huge argument with the leader over this since he was wearing a really nice pair of spectacles to correct his vision. I called him a hypocrite and such... 16 and stupid... who knows, they may have been on to something way back then. 
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The Raven is a sir .... an Elder.
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09-22-2007, 08:53 AM
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The Raven is a sir .... an Elder.
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I caught that when I read a few more posts.... and was in the process of correcting it when you were posting. 
Thanks for the heads up!
What do you think of my post regarding the light topic? Do you also think it was more common in the early days? If so, what do you attribute it to?
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09-22-2007, 08:57 AM
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I caught that when I read a few more posts.... and was in the process of correcting it when you were posting. 
Thanks for the heads up!
What do you think of my post regarding the light topic? Do you also think it was more common in the early days? If so, what do you attribute it to?
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Yes ... a lot more common in the early day...
this can be attributed the to fact that these men had fellowship w/ those on the other side .... and knew they were Spirit-filled and could not deny they were His ... as time has progressed and our movement became more insular ... and some more radicalized .... we have cast them aside as LOST.
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09-22-2007, 09:00 AM
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Inquiring minds want to know if Barb holds this view? 
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LOL!! I am a PAJCer in doctrine, Daniel... however, I have many questions re those who came before me and what they believed.
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09-22-2007, 09:02 AM
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LOL!! I am a PAJCer in doctrine, Daniel...however, I have many questions re those who came before me and what they believed.
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No one denies you are a PAJCer ... sister ... but are you PAJC- lite?
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