Tulsa Report Day 2

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by Steadfast

Pelathais and Associates,

In this vast forum world there people of every kind and opinion. Opinions are great things that help form our personalities.

I have opinions. You have opinions. However, when those opinions impugn the character of another man it goes beyond to boundaries of good taste and into the realms of defamation.

It's obvious that your 'opinion' is that you don't agree with me. I'm a big boy on a faceless forum so that doesn't bother me. It would appear from past posts... as well as this one... that you don't much like me. Again, the richtor scale on my concern didn't register too much shaking in my frail heart over it.

However, to openly call me a liar is something that I don't intend to tolerate quietly. I frankly have no idea what you're talking about when you say something about UPC homosexuals shacking up without backsliding... however, to fabricate something like that did give you a great opportunity to smear Bro. TLC. Obviously, to call someone a liar is bad but to totally fabricate a lie to attack another good man? You, sir / ma'am, show well your character for what it is... and, honestly, it's not a good showing.

The closest I came to talking about 'UPC homosexuals shacking up without backsliding' was when someone questioned the validity of the convictions these men who are leaving might have. I spoke (listen carefully now, Pelathais, because details are important) about the dilemma I've faced in finding fellowship in just any Church.

One of the examples I spoke of was when I had a young person leave and shack up with her boyfriend and they were used in Church... even on the platform... just like nothing was wrong. This was stated in my prior post:


Where do you get 'homosexual' or 'UPC' out of that? Are you so bereft of literal arguments that you have to make things up to prove a point?

Thus to call me a liar either makes you (a) a horribly inaccurate mindreader (b) a miserably failed expert at 'reading between the lines' or (c) someone who doesn't mind twisting the words of others to attack a person (TLC) an organization (UPC) or a sincere conviction.

To be called a liar by someone with those credentials... well... it's almost an honor.

I did not call you a "liar" my friend. Your "shacking up" post was questioned earlier by another and when you responded, you did not address the issue. It does not take a "reading between the lines" to draw the inference that I drew. I merely took your post at face value. If there were "complexities" between the lines then you should have either provided details or resisted the urge to smear the UPC.

Steadfast said:
It would appear from past posts... as well as this one... that you don't much like me. Again, the richtor scale on my concern didn't register too much shaking in my frail heart over it.

You seem to have an unreasonably thin skin when it comes to our online friendship, but I'm glad that your heart is good and not subject to Richter scale shakings. I am genuinely saddened to hear that you think that I "don't much like" you. Quite the opposite is the case. You are my brother and not only am I commanded to love you, but I can honestly say that I do - admitedly in that hazy sort of online friendship kind of way, but I think even in person I could call you both a "friend" and a "brother."

Added to that is the fact that you have not read enough of my posts to even discern my gender which leaves me feeling that you are simply jumping to conclusions. I trust that the "sir/madam" was not an insult. My public profile is available but I obviously haven't even registered enough on your radar for you to take a look. No biggie. It just leaves me wondering how you think you could have read my heart.

No harm, no foul.

I still question the heterosexual shacking up anecdote and the alcohol consumption that you described. Are there perhaps more complexities that might even exonerate those that you attack?