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Old 03-13-2007, 06:19 PM
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Question Does God ever abandon a city or town???

Here is the scriptural basis for my question:
  • Mark 6:1-6 - Jesus was unable to do any mighty works in his hometown
  • Mark 8:22-23, Matthew 11:20-22 - Jesus once brought a man outside of a cursed city to heal him
  • Acts 16:6-7 - The Spirit stopped Paul from entering into certain areas to preach the Gospel

I know that any person can be saved anywhere, anytime as long as they completely obey the Word of God and its plan for salvation.... my question is in the context of a city/town where God has called a preacher to be a beacon of light; will God ever abandon a city or town and pull His preacher out leaving it with noone??? Through the years, I have heard of smaller cities/towns being completely abandoned when a pastor would feel "called" elsewhere and noone else would come to fill the gap....

will God ever abandon a city/town to its own wickedness or will He always call another preacher to come and fill the vacancy??? any thoughts???
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Old 03-13-2007, 06:34 PM
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This is an interesting question.
One thing I am thinking right now is that God through his great commission has given unto us the command to go into the whole world and preach the Gospel to every creature.

Another thing is this, their may be times, or seasons when an area may be ripe for revival, more than at other times.

A man of God may go somewhere and not see any fruit of his labours, but then leave.
Some other man may come after him and build a great work.
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Old 03-13-2007, 06:44 PM
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Here is the scriptural basis for my question:
  • Mark 6:1-6 - Jesus was unable to do any mighty works in his hometown
  • Mark 8:22-23, Matthew 11:20-22 - Jesus once brought a man outside of a cursed city to heal him
  • Acts 16:6-7 - The Spirit stopped Paul from entering into certain areas to preach the Gospel
I know that any person can be saved anywhere, anytime as long as they completely obey the Word of God and its plan for salvation.... my question is in the context of a city/town where God has called a preacher to be a beacon of light; will God ever abandon a city or town and pull His preacher out leaving it with noone??? Through the years, I have heard of smaller cities/towns being completely abandoned when a pastor would feel "called" elsewhere and noone else would come to fill the gap....

will God ever abandon a city/town to its own wickedness or will He always call another preacher to come and fill the vacancy??? any thoughts???
I don't see where the "curse" is....I see Jesus rebuking some cities for their unbelief. I see one city not having many mircles done for their unbelief...but I don't see any curses
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He abandoned Sodom and Gomorrah.

He left Nazereth
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Old 03-13-2007, 06:45 PM
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This is an interesting question.
One thing I am thinking right now is that God through his great commission has given unto us the command to go into the whole world and preach the Gospel to every creature.

Another thing is this, their may be times, or seasons when an area may be ripe for revival, more than at other times.

A man of God may go somewhere and not see any fruit of his labours, but then leave.
Some other man may come after him and build a great work.
I knew that someone would make the "Whole Gospel to the Whole World" statement....
  • Matthew 28:18-20 speaks that we need to "Go ye therefore..."
  • Acts 1:8 speaks about how that we will be witnesses to "...the uttermost part of the earth"

they are both statements that Christ gave the entire Church.... so why aren't there churches of truth in every city, town and village??? Because people choose not to go, thus those obedient to the Great Commission are not in as great of a number as it should be.... so can it be that God picks and chooses how to use His willing vessels, placing them in strategic places/times which best suite His will???
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Old 03-13-2007, 06:53 PM
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just food for thought... I'm not actually making any pointed statements regarding this....
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Old 03-13-2007, 06:55 PM
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I knew that someone would make the "Whole Gospel to the Whole World" statement....
  • Matthew 28:18-20 speaks that we need to "Go ye therefore..."
  • Acts 1:8 speaks about how that we will be witnesses to "...the uttermost part of the earth"

they are both statements that Christ gave the entire Church.... so why aren't there churches of truth in every city, town and village??? Because people choose not to go, thus those obedient to the Great Commission are not in as great of a number as it should be.... so can it be that God picks and chooses how to use His willing vessels, placing them in places/times which best suite His will???
That is how I see it.
I tell you Malvaro. Tears are running down my face as I type this.
The need is great. The laborourers are few.

God help us.
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Old 03-14-2007, 09:42 AM
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Old 03-14-2007, 10:26 AM
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I don't see where the "curse" is....I see Jesus rebuking some cities for their unbelief. I see one city not having many mircles done for their unbelief...but I don't see any curses
It's another example of trying to take literal events and spiritualize them in order to make them apply today.
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Old 03-14-2007, 10:27 AM
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This is an interesting question.
One thing I am thinking right now is that God through his great commission has given unto us the command to go into the whole world and preach the Gospel to every creature.

Another thing is this, their may be times, or seasons when an area may be ripe for revival, more than at other times.

A man of God may go somewhere and not see any fruit of his labours, but then leave.
Some other man may come after him and build a great work.
Even the great revival preacher Charles Finney was unable to accomplish much in Buffalo.
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