Is This Blasphemy - Washington Post?

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by Nina

But:

I've never understood how You could blaspheme the Holy Ghost without blaspheming Jesus. Aren't they the same? (One)[/B]

Nina

They are the same person, but not the same office. This just goes to show us there is more to Oneness than just understanding one person and not three.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by TRFrance

Based on the definition given by Webster's dictionary, I'd say yes, it is.

blas·phe·my
Pronunciation: \ˈblas-fə-mē\
Function:noun
Inflected Form(s):plural blas·phe·miesDate:13th century

1 a: the act of insulting or showing contempt or lack of reverence for God
b: the act of claiming the attributes of deity
2: irreverence toward something considered sacred or inviolable

I think the cartoonists point is that Republican politicization of religion isn't something that God is too impressed with. I'd say it crosses the line with the language it has God using. Beyond that, I can see the point he's trying to make.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by TRFrance

You'll never see it.

They're careful about offending Muslims... but they don't care about offending Christians.

I think that's because Muslims go wacko....Christians are at least capable of spotting satire...well....at least some of us are.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by TRFrance

No they're not brave enough.
They figure that offended Muslims might firebomb their offices, but Christians wont. So they pick on us, not on them.

Very cowardly, IMO.

I don't think the cartoon was aimed at offending Christians. I think it's point is that McCain and the Republicans politicization of religion isn't impressing God. I fully agree. I think he did cross the line with the language he portrayed God as using...but that's how an unenlightened mind thinks.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by OP_Carl

That WOULD BE the case if he had stopped with the first two frames within the panel.
The cartoon takes a potshot at Pentecost - ALL of Pentecost - in the third panel, where it insinuates that God is unfamiliar with speaking in tongues and does not understand it. And therefore, from a Pentecostal perspective, this blasphemes a core aspect of our religious experience. If the cartoonist, editor, publisher, or anybody else in the chain of the decision to publish this was ever at one point filled with the Holy Ghost, they have blasphemed against the Holy Ghost in this incident. I seriously doubt this to be the case, but it shows that more and more people out there are completely un-churched and completely irreverent.

I don't see it as a pot shot at Pentecost, ALL of Pentecost. Palin is a Trinitarian. That means her tongues aren't real anyway. And frankly, when religion is used as a political weapon, I honestly believe that God finds it to be "strange fire".

I hope the second option is hyperbole on your part, Aquila.

It may be shrewd, it may be pandering, it may even be cynical, for a non-conservative political animal like McCain to choose somebody like Palin for the sole effect of energizing a portion of the Republican base whose eyes are still sore from his many finger-jabs (McCain-Feingold, Immigration "Reform", etc., etc., ad nauseum), but I do not see how one could draw blasphemy out of this moves, whatever the assumed motives.

It's most definately pandering.

I think Governor Palin holds the key to the resurgence of American exceptionalism and a return to traditional American values. These could be very exciting times indeed.

LOL I've got a bridge to sell you! LOL

Aquila, I think you'd benefit greatly from a week or two break from the intensive study you've been doing on MoveOn.org and the daily Kos.

Bro....in the judgment, you'll see that I've not been out to Moveon.org or any other site. I'm just voicing my opinion. This is one reason why I'm not welcomed in the Apostolic Church....I'm an independent thinker. And trust me...liberals hate me just the same because I call them on stuff when talking to them too.

It's not like we're unaware of their tactics or talking points. It's not like we're unaware that true leftists believe the ends justify the means, and this means lies and false compromises.

Bro....that's both sides of the poltical isle. Particians really are facinating because they're always exhibiting blind loyalty.

[SOUNWORTHY]

Was unable to paste cartoon. Myself as well as many other ministers have responded to Washington Post.

Reverend Jones Secretary of United Pentecostal Church International Responds to Cartoon. See below the cartoon.

Talk about borderline blasphemy - this "cartoon" is the epitomy of it. If this had been written about an aspect of the Muslim religion the WashPost writer would have death threats against him. Below the pathetic joke is a letter written by Bro Jones from UPCI headquarters to the Washington Post. Pray for our nation and VOTE MCCAIN-PALIN IN NOVEMBER!
A Message from Jerry Jones:

Dear Sir:

I could hardly believe my eyes when I saw the long-denied political bias of the editorial board of the Washington Post confirmed by the highly offensive cartoon by Pat Oliphant published on September 9th. I was shocked to discover the board also holds a religious prejudice as well. To single out those of us who are Pentecostal and revere as well as practice the Scriptural experience of speaking in tongues in such a calculatedly offensive way is disgusting. That it was published by a leading U. S. newspaper is beyond belief. Quite obviously the board's phobia of Governor Palin has caused it to lose its senses as well as its decency. To attack her on the basis of her political positions is certainly within your right, but to attack and ridicule her solely on the basis of her faith, a faith that is practiced by a significant number of Americans is indefensible.

A response by the millions of Pentecostals both in their future choice of reading material as well as at the polls can be expected from this unprovoked attack on a belief than spans many denominations of Christianity.

If such a deliberate disregard of the sincerely held beliefs of a significant segment of our population is fair game in the pursuit of a political agenda, how can the already tattered reputation of the traditional press in our country be rehabilitated? Your abrogation of your responsibility to respect and exhibit at least a minimum sensitivity toward other's beliefs relegates the fabled Washington Post to the sorry company of yellow journalism rags of the past.

I urge the editorial board to issue an immediate apology to the millions offended by this silly and disgusting cartoon.

Sincerely,


Jerry Jones
General Secretary
United Pentecostal Church International

[SOUNWORTHY]

A Message from Jerry Jones concerning Cartoon in the Washington Post

Reverend Jones Secretary of United Pentecostal Church International Responds to Cartoon.

Talk about borderline blasphemy - this "cartoon" is the epitomy of it. If this had been written about an aspect of the Muslim religion the WashPost writer would have death threats against him. Below the pathetic joke is a letter written by Bro Jones from UPCI headquarters to the Washington Post. Pray for our nation and VOTE MCCAIN-PALIN IN NOVEMBER!

Dear Sir:

I could hardly believe my eyes when I saw the long-denied political bias of the editorial board of the Washington Post confirmed by the highly offensive cartoon by Pat Oliphant published on September 9th. I was shocked to discover the board also holds a religious prejudice as well. To single out those of us who are Pentecostal and revere as well as practice the Scriptural experience of speaking in tongues in such a calculatedly offensive way is disgusting. That it was published by a leading U. S. newspaper is beyond belief. Quite obviously the board's phobia of Governor Palin has caused it to lose its senses as well as its decency. To attack her on the basis of her political positions is certainly within your right, but to attack and ridicule her solely on the basis of her faith, a faith that is practiced by a significant number of Americans is indefensible.

A response by the millions of Pentecostals both in their future choice of reading material as well as at the polls can be expected from this unprovoked attack on a belief than spans many denominations of Christianity.

If such a deliberate disregard of the sincerely held beliefs of a significant segment of our population is fair game in the pursuit of a political agenda, how can the already tattered reputation of the traditional press in our country be rehabilitated? Your abrogation of your responsibility to respect and exhibit at least a minimum sensitivity toward other's beliefs relegates the fabled Washington Post to the sorry company of yellow journalism rags of the past.

I urge the editorial board to issue an immediate apology to the millions offended by this silly and disgusting cartoon.

Sincerely,


Jerry Jones
General Secretary
United Pentecostal Church International

[Michael Phelps]

Originally Posted by SOUNWORTHY

Was unable to paste cartoon. Myself as well as many other ministers have responded to Washington Post.

Reverend Jones Secretary of United Pentecostal Church International Responds to Cartoon. See below the cartoon.

Talk about borderline blasphemy - this "cartoon" is the epitomy of it. If this had been written about an aspect of the Muslim religion the WashPost writer would have death threats against him. Below the pathetic joke is a letter written by Bro Jones from UPCI headquarters to the Washington Post. Pray for our nation and VOTE MCCAIN-PALIN IN NOVEMBER!
A Message from Jerry Jones:

Dear Sir:

I could hardly believe my eyes when I saw the long-denied political bias of the editorial board of the Washington Post confirmed by the highly offensive cartoon by Pat Oliphant published on September 9th. I was shocked to discover the board also holds a religious prejudice as well. To single out those of us who are Pentecostal and revere as well as practice the Scriptural experience of speaking in tongues in such a calculatedly offensive way is disgusting. That it was published by a leading U. S. newspaper is beyond belief. Quite obviously the board's phobia of Governor Palin has caused it to lose its senses as well as its decency. To attack her on the basis of her political positions is certainly within your right, but to attack and ridicule her solely on the basis of her faith, a faith that is practiced by a significant number of Americans is indefensible.

A response by the millions of Pentecostals both in their future choice of reading material as well as at the polls can be expected from this unprovoked attack on a belief than spans many denominations of Christianity.

If such a deliberate disregard of the sincerely held beliefs of a significant segment of our population is fair game in the pursuit of a political agenda, how can the already tattered reputation of the traditional press in our country be rehabilitated? Your abrogation of your responsibility to respect and exhibit at least a minimum sensitivity toward other's beliefs relegates the fabled Washington Post to the sorry company of yellow journalism rags of the past.

I urge the editorial board to issue an immediate apology to the millions offended by this silly and disgusting cartoon.

Sincerely,


Jerry Jones
General Secretary
United Pentecostal Church International

Very well said. Bro. Jones has always been a terrific wordsmith. Good for him.

[A_PoMo]

it's a little bombastic and whiney.

[jaxfam6]

Originally Posted by A_PoMo

it's a little bombastic and whiney.

where is your letter to them that is less "bombastic and whiney"?
maybe it will get a better response from them.