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Old 03-02-2009, 12:19 AM
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Exactly.

I think what happens is, we get many who are caught up in their struggles and these "theologians" come their way appearing to be compassionate and understanding.
Yes, I would agree with the above, also I would say that it is more political correctness that these "theologians" (I use that term loosely) wrest the scripture to make Christianity more accessible for the homosexual groups.
The majority of the homosexual community doesn't buy the homosexual and Christian partnership. They know that their lifestyle and the Christian faith is diametrically opposed to each other.

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We should refute their theology in love.
And then minister to the sinner in love and pray for their healing.
Agreed.

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I personally think that homosexuals need a miracle. I don't believe they can "will" themselves straight.
I believe everyone that comes to Truth has come through in a miraculous way. Every soul won is a miracle.

I don't believe anyone can "will" anything done, if they could they wouldn't need Jesus.

I do believe that if someone wants help Jesus is there to supply help.
From the Homosexual to the Hindu elephant boy, help is just a matter of true want and desire to get your self together. Jesus takes the helm and we start our journey to recovery and maturity.

Lord bless you my Brother

In JESUS NAME

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Old 03-02-2009, 02:14 AM
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Great stuff EB.

Amen!
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Old 03-02-2009, 09:59 AM
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Re: Gay apostolics?

Is it a sin to be a homosexual, even if one does not act on one's attractions?
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Old 03-02-2009, 11:51 AM
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Is it a sin to be a homosexual, even if one does not act on one's attractions?
I've also wondered that. Is the sin in the attraction itself or is it in acting on that attraction?
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I've also wondered that. Is the sin in the attraction itself or is it in acting on that attraction?
I'll try to answer it for myself, from the Bible. Seems to be the act, and not the "being". Which creates a problem: some people are destined never to enjoy sex (legally), ever. Straights can look forward to and enjoy it in marriage. Gays - never. Unless they are miraculously (or otherwise) "delivered". Or "healed". Whatever you want to call it.

No problem, ya say? Simply ask God for that healing and voila! He'll fix ya right up. (Not you, RW! You know what I mean! ) And if He doesn't? Well, not His fault. You obviously weren't sincere in your repenting and praying and pleading. If you become despondent and depressed and suicidal, well, it's your own fault. Obviously.
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Old 03-02-2009, 12:04 PM
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Is it a sin to be a homosexual, even if one does not act on one's attractions?

When I am consumed with thoughts of any sin, I should be concerned.

As a man thinks, so he is.


The hopelessness of any sin can be overwhelming-- if not for the Grace of change that GOD allows for those who cast themselves at the feet of Jesus.

He is GOD and besides Him, there is no Savior.
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When I am consumed with thoughts of any sin, I should be concerned.

As a man thinks, so he is.


The hopelessness of any sin can be overwhelming-- if not for the Grace of change that GOD allows for those who cast themselves at the feet of Jesus.

He is GOD and besides Him, there is no Savior.
Uh. Is that a yes or a no?
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Old 03-02-2009, 12:30 PM
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Re: Gay apostolics?

Unless a sinner is willing to come to GOD on HIS TERMS, that sinner will die and spend eternity suffering a loneliness, a pain that IS NOTHING compared to what can be experienced in this earthly life.


The plight of the depressed sinner is most sad to me. After finding this life so unsatisfactory that the depressed sinner commits suicide, that same sinner has AN ETERNITY of pain, sorrow and loneliness to look forward to.

This is beyond sad! It's so deceptive!!!! It's so, so, sad!

I want a deeper burden for the lost! So many folks are already in hell and will be there forever!

FOREVER!!!!!!
They're burning right now, but there is no relief!
They're crying right now, but no one there cares!
There are hot fiery worms working their way through their skin and there is nothing they can do about it-- they can't make it stop!
Surrounded in darkness in a bottomless pit that wasn't even designed for them-- wasn't even created for them but THEY ARE THERE and THERE IS NO HOPE of CHANGE now!
NO HOPE of a better day!
NO HOPE of one more sermon that may cause them to repent!

People who died and went to hell 10 years ago are still there.

THEY'RE STILL THERE! Still suffering, still burning, still crying, never dying NO there's NO MORE relief!

Can you imagine burning for 50 YEARS?

Can you imagine falling through darkness for 50 YEARS in a pit that is beyond hot with murderers and rapists and homosexuals and pedophiles and religious hypocrites and good-hearted sinners-- ALL LUMPED TOGETHER INTO A PLACE OF ETERNAL SUFFERING?!!!!


If Napoleon Bonaparte is in hell, HOW LONG has he been suffering?
How much longer does he have until he has been punished enough? How much longer does he have until his sentence of indescibable pain and suffering is complete?

As evil as Caligula may have been, think about the fact that he has been burning CONSTANTLY for close to 2,000 years!

He's been crying for almost 2,000 years!
Writhing in pain with skin worms crawling underneath his skin and he grits his teeth in pain and agony over the way he has lived his short, temporal life!
He's been living in a place of REGRET for over 2,000 years!!!
He CAN NOT repent!
He's been WITHOUT PEACE for 2,000 years and it's not going to change for him tomorrow!
NO! In hell, there is NO TOMORROW!
Only a persistent burning, suffering, weeping, anger and sadness as those there spend FOREVER THINKING about where they have been and where they are!


There is no hope of change for them now-- him that is filthy, let him be filthy still!



I HATE satan!

I HATE WHAT HE DOES TO PEOPLE!!!!!

I HATE SIN!!!!!
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Old 03-02-2009, 12:37 PM
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I've also wondered that. Is the sin in the attraction itself or is it in acting on that attraction?
If a man lusts after a woman it's sin. If a man lusts after a man it's unatural sin. In other words your a pervert, got it?
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Old 03-02-2009, 12:58 PM
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Re: Gay apostolics?

The sin of any sin begins with the thought.

A passing temptation is different from the one who indulges in the thought of that sin.

That indulging is sin and it only leads to more sin which leads to death.

After death, for the sinner who died without repenting from their sinful thoughts and plans, there is an eternity of suffering-- an eternity of pain and fire where they can spend their endless and hopeless existence thinking about the worthless sin that damned their soul FOREVER!!!


Annanias and Saphira-- if they went to hell upon their deaths, they are STILL THERE!!!

Their transgression began with a thought!


HOW SAD!!

HOW SAD!!

HOW SAD!!
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