Salvation: easy or hard?

[pastorrick1959]

[E=vrblackwell;]Its very easy for both, Christ did all the work. It is men in the name of religion that has made it hard. There have been many unnecessary obstacles placed between the sinner and the cross.

I had to do nothing but be born to become a sinner. Adam did all the work. But according to religion I have to do this and that and jump through all kinds of hoops to be saved. Not so, the second Adam(Jesus) did the work

so your saying we have to do nothing to stay saved? salvation was purchased by JESUS and his blood ,,,..we have to be born again of water and spirit to enter into the kingdom which is the free gift of god ,, but we must receive it . JESUS SAID if you love me keep my commandments ,, so there is something we must do..

[Sherri]

Originally Posted by Timmy

What does he mean by that?

That if you live sold out for God, it's easy. If you live a mediocre life for God, it's hard.

It made a good one-liner anyway.

[DAII]

If you are an atheist .... who gives a flying fajita.

[Truthseeker]

Heb 5:9

9 And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that OBEY him;
KJV

[Truthseeker]

Originally Posted by DAII

If you are an atheist .... who gives a flying fajita.

I doubt Timmy is an atheist.

[vrblackwell]

Originally Posted by pastorrick1959

[E=vrblackwell;]Its very easy for both, Christ did all the work. It is men in the name of religion that has made it hard. There have been many unnecessary obstacles placed between the sinner and the cross.

I had to do nothing but be born to become a sinner. Adam did all the work. But according to religion I have to do this and that and jump through all kinds of hoops to be saved. Not so, the second Adam(Jesus) did the work

so your saying we have to do nothing to stay saved? salvation was purchased by JESUS and his blood ,,,..we have to be born again of water and spirit to enter into the kingdom which is the free gift of god ,, but we must receive it . JESUS SAID if you love me keep my commandments ,, so there is something we must do..

We became sinners by being born into the natural world. We become clean by being reborn into the spiritual. Of course there are things we do, but not to the extent that many say. But it is not our works that save us, it is our faith in the work that Christ has done.

[Truthseeker]

Originally Posted by vrblackwell

We became sinners by being born into the natural world. We become clean by being reborn into the spiritual. Of course there are things we do, but not to the extent that many say. But it is not our works that save us, it is our faith in the work that Christ has done.

Heb 5:9

9 And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that OBEY him;
KJV


How does obedience come into play? Is faith without obedience really faith?

[Aquila]

Hard... because we all assume it takes so much to be saved we begin living by a law of some sort. And those of us who are justified by any form of law... are fallen from grace.

It's always harder to just let go... and let God.

[Aquila]

I also think we loose sight of the judgment of the believer. Believers are saved, our judgment is to determine our reward in eternity not our salvation.

[Timmy]

Originally Posted by Sherri

That if you live sold out for God, it's easy. If you live a mediocre life for God, it's hard.

It made a good one-liner anyway.

OK, thanks.