Trying to believe it has nearly killed me. I know others who can say the same. I know of some who are dead now, because of it. If it works for you, fine. It DOES NOT WORK for everyone. For some, I guess it is hard. Way too hard.
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Hebrews 13:23 Know ye that our brother Timothy is set at liberty
Mat 13:44 "The kingdom of heaven is like treasure hidden in a field, which a man found and covered up. Then in his joy he goes and sells all that he has and buys that field. Mat 13:45 "Again, the kingdom of heaven is like a merchant in search of fine pearls, Mat 13:46 who, on finding one pearl of great value, went and sold all that he had and bought it.
The cost to obtain is all! The only thing we have is our life to give and become his servant. Which is a life long purchase in which we are judged faithful servants or not to obtain the prize of eternal life.
Mat 13:44 "The kingdom of heaven is like treasure hidden in a field, which a man found and covered up. Then in his joy he goes and sells all that he has and buys that field. Mat 13:45 "Again, the kingdom of heaven is like a merchant in search of fine pearls, Mat 13:46 who, on finding one pearl of great value, went and sold all that he had and bought it.
The cost to obtain is all! The only thing we have is our life to give and become his servant. Which is a life long purchase in which we are judged faithful servants or not to obtain the prize of eternal life.
But a life without God is worthless!! I guess its all in how much one values a life of sin!! Im my mind its still free!! Because what i gave up was worthless!!
The way of a transgressor is what is hard. Jesus said his yoke is easy and his burden is light. Man-made concoctions added into the picture is what makes salvation hard for anyone. It could not be any easier than surrendering to the Lord and letting Him live through a person. Man made it hard. Our desire to throw our two cents' worth into the picture is what makes it hard. The longer I serve the Lord, the more I realize it is easier than I ever thought, since I am getting away from flesh doing the work.
See this is what I don't understand. That goes COMPLETELY against my experiences. When I was "living for God" my life sucked beyond belief. I was miserable, hopeless, beaten down, and depressed. I spent years believing that I was intrinsically flawed, that I was a horrible terrible person because no matter what I did, it was never enough! I don't know if I can find the right words to describe how truly dark and bleak those years were.
And now, now that I am living in "rampant sin", my life is the most peaceful that it's ever been. And I am truly content with my circumstances, my strengths, my weaknesses, my limitations. And though I wouldn't mind a little more in the bank, there is little about my life I would change.
Truly I'm not bitter. I have come to see the good that came out of my time and my experiences. There are character strengths and insight that I gained. And it contributed to the person I am today. But I doubt that I would ever be able to agree that it was "easy".
But a life without God is worthless!! I guess its all in how much one values a life of sin!! Im my mind its still free!! Because what i gave up was worthless!!
then sadly you are mistaken. Your first point of...
But a life without God is worthless
Has nothing to do with the point about obtaining salvation and the requirement at hand. It also is not on focus that it is worth something when potential is there. If you think salvation is free every other view you have will be skewed as well to fit that. The clear teaching of unless you give up all you will not obtain is not a free salvation. It clearly is a price/cost to obtain which also involves a battle in ones life against the flesh. That is not free.
Trying to believe it has nearly killed me. I know others who can say the same. I know of some who are dead now, because of it. If it works for you, fine. It DOES NOT WORK for everyone. For some, I guess it is hard. Way too hard.
I didn't see that you had written this, could've saved me a lot of time, I could have just used my usual "Yeah, what Timmy said"!
then sadly you are mistaken. Your first point of...
But a life without God is worthless
Has nothing to do with the point about obtaining salvation and the requirement at hand. It also is not on focus that it is worth something when potential is there. If you think salvation is free every other view you have will be skewed as well to fit that. The clear teaching of unless you give up all you will not obtain is not a free salvation. It clearly is a price/cost to obtain which also involves a battle in ones life against the flesh. That is not free.
Then explain to me the gift of the Holy ghost, saved by grace and Jesus paying the price at Calvary!!! Now that makes it free to us today!! So I guess technically it wasnt free!! But it is free for you and I!!! Unless you wanna start putting a price on all the legalistic issues that ultr-cons have!!!
See this is what I don't understand. That goes COMPLETELY against my experiences. When I was "living for God" my life sucked beyond belief. I was miserable, hopeless, beaten down, and depressed. I spent years believing that I was intrinsically flawed, that I was a horrible terrible person because no matter what I did, it was never enough! I don't know if I can find the right words to describe how truly dark and bleak those years were.
And now, now that I am living in "rampant sin", my life is the most peaceful that it's ever been. And I am truly content with my circumstances, my strengths, my weaknesses, my limitations. And though I wouldn't mind a little more in the bank, there is little about my life I would change.
Truly I'm not bitter. I have come to see the good that came out of my time and my experiences. There are character strengths and insight that I gained. And it contributed to the person I am today. But I doubt that I would ever be able to agree that it was "easy".
I'm a believer who can feel you. I rejected the false "god" of institutional religion for this reason. I'd never been more troubled or depressed than when I was jumping through the hoops of religion in effort to supposedly please God. Now, I've experienced God in the dimensions beyond religion. God isn't as hung up on most things like our religion is. The politics of our religion is also detestable in God's eyes. I see sin as not just an arbitrary "Thou shalt not..." because God said so or because God is so squeemish he can't endure sin. But I see sin as something that harms us and prevents growth into all that God desires us to be. Sin is self destructive and most bring their own temporal judgments upon us before we ever stand before the judgment seat of God.
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