Salvation: easy or hard?

[TheLegalist]

Originally Posted by allstate1

I have an antique watch thas is in hundreds of pieces and I want to sell it as is!!! Prolly wont get a lot for it!! But I have a friend who is a watch maker and he has offered to put it together at no charge!! Once he is done it will be worth a lot of money!!! So I can leave it in the box where it will remain basically worthless or take it to a free service and get it fixed and have something valuable!!

sigh....

[allstate1]

I agree with repentance, baptism ,and the Holyghost also your point of abiding in Christ!!!! What I am saying is simply what you are considering "cost" (turning your life over to his will, persecution,family,goals etc etc...) is nothing compared to the return on your investment!! Its like investing a penny knowing you will make millions!!!

[TheLegalist]

Originally Posted by allstate1

I agree with repentance, baptism ,and the Holyghost also your point of abiding in Christ!!!! What I am saying is simply what you are considering "cost" (turning your life over to his will, persecution,family,goals etc etc...) is nothing compared to the return on your investment!! Its like investing a penny knowing you will make millions!!!

ok you do realize that your comparison argument means nothing in this. Whether or not the comparison is equal or not. A COST and EXCHANGE ARE NEEDED and a requirement MET! 999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,99 9,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999, 999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,99 9,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999, 999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,99 9,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999, 999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,99 9,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999, 999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,99 9,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999, 999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,99 9,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999, 999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,99 9,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999, 999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,99 9,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999, 999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,99 9,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999, 999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,99 9,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999, 999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,99 9,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999, 999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,99 9,999,999,999,999.00 to .0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000001 THE COMPARISON AND RATIO doesn't matter. He gave life and did the will of the Father and abided in him. He gives us the SAME exact relational values. John 15. Also to say it's a one time purchase would not be correct and that it is easy is to negate all the words christ has spoken. They will be lovers of themselves more than lovers of God. Thus people see the values different right or wrong.

[allstate1]

OK OK YOu win!!

[Timmy]

lol

[allstate1]

I know have a headache!!!

[MawMaw]

Once upon a time I lived my life very hard in a way that was pleasing to the enemy of my soul. Now I live hard for my God and My Saviour Jesus Christ!! It's not hard at all to stay in a saved condition OR to stay in an usaved condition.....you just have to make up your mind either way.

[POWERUP]

Come on people. We know how hard it is to get really saved!!! First, you go to church and listen to a preacher scream and holler for an hour!(Not all do though) then you go
down to the altar to give your wretched, miserable life to the Lord.

Then out of nowhere you are surrounded by 20 plus beings pulling you apart limb by
limb.

Something must really be wrong because they are all telling you to do something
different!! Sounds kinda like confusion at the tower of Babel!!

Someone is bumping under your chain so that tongues come out quicker.

You crack open one eye to see someone shove a microphone in your mouth and
holler......Ya hear that?

Another soul saved!!!! WOW!!!

Now you tell me..................if that's not hard.

You stand there confused, and bumfuzzled................Someone says....How do you feel?

You say...........different???

Someone else screams out......................I told you he/she got it!!!

[Timmy]

Oh, but it's worth it!

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by Michlow

See this is what I don't understand. That goes COMPLETELY against my experiences. When I was "living for God" my life sucked beyond belief. I was miserable, hopeless, beaten down, and depressed. I spent years believing that I was intrinsically flawed, that I was a horrible terrible person because no matter what I did, it was never enough! I don't know if I can find the right words to describe how truly dark and bleak those years were.

That is what I was trying to say about man-made addition s to the Gospel. My opinion is that you were obviously underneath a set of man made additions that made serving God terrible. But do not throw out the baby with the bathwater. When people find what Jesus was really talking about and filter out all the junk that was added to his words, His word really is true when He said His yoke is easy and burden is light.

The way I cam to grips with this is by getting into the bible for myself, and realizing all I may have been taught was wrong. I sincerely sought God and did not look for loopholes for anything. And this is what Acts 17 described as being more noble. The Bereans took it for themselves and searched the scriptures to see whether what they were told was true or not. When I did that, wow, serving God became AWESOME! And it gets better all the time!

Just because you seemingly were bombarded with extrabiblical error and misinterpretation of the scriptures, does not mean there is no true understanding of the Bible that will give heaven on earth when followed.