I have no problem with him finding a good church. If you had read my previous posts you would see that I suggested that might be in order.
What I object to is you people who have walked away from church urging others to do the same.
You know that I like you and value your contributions to discussions on here but this type of advice to someone is acid and wrong.
As I have told you in times past you are not allowing the ministry of a pastor, teachers, etc to edify you as the bible says they are there to do. You have never responded to me about that when I point it out.
It is tragic all of you guys who have walked away are urging someone else in pain to do the same.
Whether it is at his current church or another one he needs godly counsel and love and to be lifted up. Not out there winging it on his own in an UNBIBLICAL path.
Well that is your opinion CC1 and you are certainly entitled to it. I'm not even mad at you for it or anything because it's good that someone out there has had different experiences and can testify to such. But I don't feel bad about what I said. Walking away was one of the best decisions I have ever made in my life. I'm sorry you disagree with it.
I have responded to you in times past about your comment about being "ministered" to. The very idea makes me tremble with fear. It never works. It never has and I don't see it ever happening at this point in my life.
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When I was young and clever, I wanted to change the world. Now that I am older and wiser, I strive to change myself. ~
People this is not a medical forum. So please refrain from giving medical advice, pro or con. Try to encourage and uplift Matt through prayer, and if need be PM him if you want to.
Y'all can debate church vs non church.
Please just keep your comments civil.
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If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
2 Chronicles 7:14 KJV
He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
People this is not a medical forum. So please refrain from giving medical advice, pro or con. Try to encourage and uplift Matt through prayer, and if need be PM him if you want to.
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If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
2 Chronicles 7:14 KJV
He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
Sorry, but "medical" advice ends up being spiritual advice,
and when you've gotten your dad off of 6 unnecessary meds,
and he's actually glowing again at 76,
I'll start listening to yours.
Advice is advice, take it or leave it.
Ya, BAM, take some more fluoride, she's
prolly right. I'm an idiot, maybe, but my
father respects me, and I'm off happy pills.
Oh, you're not an idiot. Just misunderstood.
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If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
2 Chronicles 7:14 KJV
He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
"Well that is your opinion CC1 and you are certainly entitled to it. I'm not even mad at you for it or anything because it's good that someone out there has had different experiences and can testify to such. But I don't feel bad about what I said. Walking away was one of the best decisions I have ever made in my life. I'm sorry you disagree with it.
I have responded to you in times past about your comment about being "ministered" to. The very idea makes me tremble with fear. It never works. It never has and I don't see it ever happening at this point in my life."
Well, sad, but amen. The veil was rent from top to bottom for a reason; find out why.
In my experience, UPC included, I had good pastors, and learned something from them all.
Ps, if you have been under the same pastor for more than 3 years, what can you possibly still be learning? Explore Right Pastor.
Thanks for the advice and the encouragement everyone. I will not be changing my meds. For the simple reason that I don't trust having my own life in my own hands without them. I will be going back to church for prayer meeting tomorrow, and I will not be church hopping. And I have gotten one concerned call from one of the sweetest ladies on the planet, not long after this thread was started. And I also got a home visit today from my best friend in church. I know where I messed up to get myself into this current depression. I missed church, because I wanted to get high, and then I couldn't stop, and now I'm realizing 7 months of sobriety are suddenly down the drain. Let's see what else....oh I will not be smoking any pot. The only thing pot does is numb me to the point where I'm void of emotion and feelings, good or bad, and the most recent few times I've smoked 7 months ago, panic attacks. I'm off to work in T minus two minutes, so if I can get through tonight, and get to prayer meeting tomorrow, I think I'll be ok. I hope. The Matt...out.
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1 John 4:8 He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.
Thanks for the advice and the encouragement everyone. I will not be changing my meds. For the simple reason that I don't trust having my own life in my own hands without them. I will be going back to church for prayer meeting tomorrow, and I will not be church hopping. And I have gotten one concerned call from one of the sweetest ladies on the planet, not long after this thread was started. And I also got a home visit today from my best friend in church. I know where I messed up to get myself into this current depression. I missed church, because I wanted to get high, and then I couldn't stop, and now I'm realizing 7 months of sobriety are suddenly down the drain. Let's see what else....oh I will not be smoking any pot. The only thing pot does is numb me to the point where I'm void of emotion and feelings, good or bad, and the most recent few times I've smoked 7 months ago, panic attacks. I'm off to work in T minus two minutes, so if I can get through tonight, and get to prayer meeting tomorrow, I think I'll be ok. I hope. The Matt...out.
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