The Name

[Michael The Disciple]

Digging4truth said:

One question though... the thread was started concerning those who would criticize one for using the term Yeshua (or any other possibly more correct version).

Me:

Yes that was the topic. The only reason I have seen so far is because we speak English therefore we should ONLY use the English version Jesus.

Yet if that applies to all nations then Jews would not be allowed to use Jesus! They would ONLY be allowed to use Yeshua.

Here is something else that is relavent to the topic.

Joel prophesied:

30: And I will shew wonders in the heavens and in the earth, blood, and fire, and pillars of smoke.
31: The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and the terrible day of the LORD come.
32: And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the LORD shall be delivered: for in mount Zion and in Jerusalem shall be deliverance, as the LORD hath said, and in the remnant whom the LORD shall call. Joel 2:30-32

Of course where we see LORD the Hebrew is YHWH. so it was prophesied whoever calls on the name of YHWH shall be saved.

Yet in the New Testament the name we see people calling on the name of Jesus or Yeshua.

This is where we need to be able to connect the name Jesus/Yeshua to the name YHWH. The name must somehow either be the same or at least contain the name YHWH.

[tbpew]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

Hi Steve,

There are now possibly MILLIONS of people who are using a Hebrew/Aramaic version of the name. Its doubtful you have conversed with very many compared to those who do.

As the move of those desiring to know the original name has progressed many are doing studies in Hebrew. Im sure there are some who could speak some Hebrew for you.

And consider this. Of the vast amount of people who are now using the Hebrew version I doubt that many of them would ask you to be ashamed that you speak English.

Micheal,
I am wanting to know a similar answer to what Dan asked in his last post.

I can not consider anything that AB said (or Steve) was diminishing the validity of the Hebrew-speaking faithful expressing God's name from the tongue of their understanding.

What comes around in these discussions is whether the efficacy of the spoken name is lessened or non-existent when the tongue that speaks it is something other than Hebrew or Aramaic or whatever!

I personally see an application here of the principle that God is no respector of persons.

Please consider continuing your participation in this thread (a topic that seems to be one in which you are very passionate), and plainly share if you believe in that speaking the English word JESUS has less, or the same, efficacy in the realm of spiritual dominions and authorities then the Hebraic utterence/sounding of the same name?

thanks.

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by tbpew

Micheal,
I am wanting to know a similar answer to what Dan asked in his last post.

I can not consider anything that AB said (or Steve) was diminishing the validity of the Hebrew-speaking faithful expressing God's name from the tongue of their understanding.

What comes around in these discussions is whether the efficacy of the spoken name is lessened or non-existent when the tongue that speaks it is something other than Hebrew or Aramaic or whatever!

I personally see an application here of the principle that God is no respector of persons.

Please consider continuing your participation in this thread (a topic that seems to be one in which you are very passionate), and plainly share if you believe in that speaking the English word JESUS has less, or the same, efficacy in the realm of spiritual dominions and authorities then the Hebraic utterence/sounding of the same name?

thanks.

What Steve and AB are promoting is that I or "we" only use the name Jesus. So should the Jews ONLY use Yeshua? Should they be reproved if they would like to at times call Yeshua Jesus?

I do not make threads to try to pressure anyone to use Yeshua. But to me it is a wonderful thing to know the original name that Gabriel brought down from Heaven and commanded Mary to name her Son.

To me this is part of the Spirit guiding us into all truth.

[ThePastorsCoach]

Lord have mercy - It is getting worse - YEHOWSHUWA and JOHOSHUA and JOEL-EL. Another translation of the Y name.

[stmatthew]

Originally Posted by AtlantaBishop

Lord have mercy - It is getting worse - YEHOWSHUWA and JOHOSHUA and JOEL-EL. Another translation of the Y name.

Come on El Bishop. Get with the program.

[ThePastorsCoach]

Originally Posted by stmatthew

Come on El Bishop. Get with the program.

HEY - That's YAH EL AtlantaBishopELYAH - Got it?

Let's join the STOP USING the "J" Movement!

BANISH THE "J"

[stmatthew]

Originally Posted by AtlantaBishop

HEY - That's YAH EL AtlantaBishopELYAH - Got it?

Let's join the STOP USING the "J" Movement!

BANISH THE "J"

That would make me "EL Matthew YAHoseph Burdette"

[ThePastorsCoach]

Originally Posted by stmatthew

That would make me "EL Matthew YAHoseph Burdette"

OH NO!!!!!!!!!!! You forgot the St part - now your disqualified and are doomed for all eternity to the bad place. Maybe I can go and pay you out!

EL AtlantaBishop YAHEL - YahosaphesaparotheamephisboshethboazmesopatamiaElS habach

[Joelel]

To all you guys who don't use the Son's name Jesus.I have a question for you ? How do you know what Son or God's authority your using if you don't use his name ? There are many gods and sons of this world.

[ThePastorsCoach]

Joelel - what on earth are you talking about? We ALL use the name Jesus. You must be on too many forums. This is an APOSTOLIC Forum where most everyone uses, preaches, teaches, baptizes, walks and talks - In the Name of Jesus Christ.

Am I right guys or am I on the wrong forum? LOL